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The present Saturn was once in a condition resembling the ancient Saturn, even as an old man was once an infant.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VIII. Supplementary Thoughts on the Law Of Reincarnation and Karma. The Development of Speech and the Planetary Evolution.","site_heading":null,"date":"1907-06-23","location":null,"word_count":152,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/100/1907-06-23/p046","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"ANS1942","book_title":"Theosophy and Rosicrucianism","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA100/English/ANS1942/19070623p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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Was sich da als heutiger Saturn zeigt, das hat nach dieser urfernen Zeit auch wieder seine Weiterentwickelung durchgemacht, und der frühere Saturn verhält sich zu dem heutigen Saturn etwa wie das Baby zum Greis. Der Saturn von heute war auch einmal in einem solchen Zustand wie der frühere Saturn, genau wie der Greis ja auch einmal ein Baby war. Ebenso ist es mit der Sonne und den andern Weltenkörpern. 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