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Such phenomena which can only be perceived to-day in certain regions of our globe, can give you an idea of how these plant-bodies could be perceived. You must imagine that your bodies revealed certain Fata Morgana-like processes, through which your present bodies could pass as if through air. You were then as transparent as a Fata Morgana—but this phenomenon did not only consist of light, but also of tones and smells whirring through the gas- sphere of the Sun.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"IX. The Earth's Passage Through Its Former Planetary Conditions","site_heading":null,"date":"1907-06-24","location":null,"word_count":199,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/100/1907-06-24/p016","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"ANS1942","book_title":"Theosophy and Rosicrucianism","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA100/English/ANS1942/19070624p02.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Eine große Anzahl derjenigen Anlagen, welche sich schon auf dem Saturn entwickelt haben und die heute in uns im Heranwachsen sind, wurden jetzt auf der Sonne von einem Ätherleib durchdrungen. Bei einem solchen Planetenübergang geschieht etwas, was man damit vergleichen kann, daß man von einer Pflanze die Frucht nimmt und sie in den Boden legt: sie verfault, aber es bildet sich die Anlage zu einer neuen Pflanze aus. So ging alles, was auf dem Saturn sich herausgebildet hatte, als Neuanlage auf der Sonne auf und durchdrang sich mit einem Ätherleib. Nicht alles — einiges blieb zurück in der Weise, daß, was früher Anlage zu dem Menschenleib war, sich gespalten hat in zwei Reiche. Ein Teil ist aufgestiegen zu einer Art von Pflanzenmenschen; wie die Pflanze heute ihren Äther- und physischen Leib hat, so hatten die damaligen Sonnenmenschen einen physischen und ÄÄtherleib. Und auf der mineralischphysischen Stufe sind zurückgeblieben andere Wesenheiten, die sich vergleichen ließen mit dem heutigen Mineralreich. Dieses schloß die Sonne als ein untergeordnetes Naturreich in sich ein, und ein anderes hatte sie als ein Pflanzen-Menschenreich hinaufgeschoben. Eine richtige Vorstellung von der Sonnenluft bekommen Sie, wenn Sie sich ein chemisch dichtes Gas vorstellen, das nicht mehr einen bloß spiegelnden Körper vorstellt, sondern jetzt alles, was es zugestrahlt erhielt, in sich aufgenommen hat und erst nachdem es das in sich verändert hat, wieder zurückwirft, wie es heute mit der Farbe der Pflanze ist. 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