{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 101/1907-10-21_02/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now it happens very often that people try to force through some machinations to get something that can never be communicated to them otherwise. Now we come to the actual methods, to the machinations that are necessary to carry out in order to gain possession of black magic powers. This is something that can be described in great detail. You have seen the first means, the first way to gain possession of black magic powers; it is to let the appointed powers and beings communicate the means to you. Yes, what are they then, these magical means? They are the means by which we can use the spiritual powers to work here in the world of the senses, to achieve results and success here. These are such means. But there are no other effects in the material world than those that emanate from the spiritual worlds. All effects, successes and deeds in the material world emanate from the spiritual worlds. Therefore, anyone who does not want to come to these things by the rightful way of slow study - through those who are initiates or clairvoyants or even adepts or magicians - can only choose another way, and that consists in , instead of turning to those who are the embodiments of higher spiritual entities, he turns to nature itself and tries to eavesdrop on nature and to discern how the spiritual forces have flowed into it. For everything in nature flows into it from the spiritual worlds, and we can again divine these spiritual forces through certain machinations and activities. But the moment we do not let nature act in regard to what we do not know, but instead carry out what we want ourselves, thus acting where we know nothing, in that moment we are also able to obtain forces from the realm of black magic. If we do not want to obtain the inner forces of nature indirectly through wisdom and insight, and if we avoid everything that happens through wisdom and insight on the path of developing inner forces, but choose other means, then we are always on the way to black magic through these other means.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"V. 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Sie haben das erste Mittel, den ersten Weg gesehen, um in den Besitz schwarzmagischer Kräfte zu kommen; es ist das, sich die Mittel eben mitteilen zu lassen von den berufenen Kräften und Wesenheiten. Ja, was sind sie denn überhaupt, diese magischen Mittel? Sie sind dasjenige, wodurch wir die geistigen Kräfte benutzen können, um hier in der Sinneswelt zu wirken, um hier Resultate und Erfolge zu erzielen. Das sind solche Mittel. Aber es gibt ja überhaupt keine anderen Wirkungen in der sinnlichen Welt als solche, die von den geistigen Welten ausgehen. Alle Wirkungen, Erfolge und Taten in der sinnlichen Welt gehen von den geistigen Welten aus. Daher kann derjenige, der nicht auf dem rechtmäßigen Wege des langsamen Studiums - durch diejenigen, die Eingeweihte oder Hellseher oder selbst Adepten oder Magier sind - zu diesen Dingen kommen will, auch nur einen anderen Weg wählen, und der besteht darin, daß er sich, statt an die Menschen, welche die Verkörperungen höherer geistiger Wesenheiten sind, an die Natur selbst wendet und der Natur abzulauschen versucht die Art und Weise, wie in sie hineingeflossen sind die geistigen Kräfte. Denn alles, was in der Natur ist, fließt aus den geistigen Welten in sie ein, und wir können der Natur durch gewisse Machinationen und Verrichtungen diese geistigen Kräfte wieder ablauschen. In dem Augenblicke nun, wo wir in bezug auf dasjenige, was wir nicht wissen, nicht die Natur handeln lassen, sondern dasjenige, was wir wollen, selbst ausführen, also da selbst handeln, wo wir nichts wissen, in dem Augenblicke sind wir auch imstande, uns Kräfte aus dem Gebiete der schwarzen Magie zu verschaffen. 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