{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 102/1908-02-15/p007","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"When we consider the origin of our present solar system theosophically we need in no wise—nor in other fields—directly contradict what is put forward by physical science. For theosophy has no objections to make in respect of what physical science strives to know—that is, what eyes could have seen in the successive phases of evolution. If at the time of the original nebula someone had placed a chair out in universal space, had sat on it for a sufficiently long life-time and had watched how the different globes had gathered themselves into balls and separated off, with physical eyes he would have seen nothing but what physical science has affirmed. But that would be just the same as if two observers reported that a man gave another a box on the ear and one of them should say: The man was furiously angry with the other and that made him shoot out his hand and give the other a box on the ear. The second observer might say: I saw nothing of anger or passion, I only saw the hand move and inflict the blow.—That is the external, materialistic description, the method employed by modern science; it does not contradict the spiritual examination of the facts. However, the man who believes that this materialistic description is the only one naturally feels that his scientific eminence is vastly superior to everything put forward by spiritual research. The modified Kant-Laplace theory may definitely hold good as an external event, but within the whole forming of globes, within this whole crystallizing of the separate cosmic globes, spiritual forces and spiritual beings were at work.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Spiritual Beings and Planetary Formation in Cosmic Evolution","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wenn sich irgend jemand zur Zeit des Urnebels einen Stuhl in den Weltenraum hinausgestellt und sich daraufgesetzt, über eine genügend lange Lebensdauer verfügt und nun zugeschaut hätte, wie die einzelnen Kugeln sich abgeballt haben, so würde er mit physischen Augen nichts anderes haben sehen können, als was diese physische Wissenschaft konstatiert hat. Aber das wäre ebenso, wie wenn zwei Menschen vor Ihnen stehen und der eine gibt dem anderen eine Ohrfeige, und dann kommt ein Beobachter und sagt: Da hat einer einen leidenschaftlichen Zorn gegen den anderen gehabt, und das hat ihn die Hand ausholen lassen und auf diese Weise hat der seine Ohrfeige bekommen; während der zweite sagen würde: Du bist ein Phantast, ich habe nichts gesehen von Zorn und Leidenschaft, ich habe nur die Hand sich bewegen sehen und einen Stoß ausführen; dadurch hat der andere eine Ohrfeige weggehabt. — Das ist die äußere, materialistische Beschreibung, die Methode, die die heutige Wissenschaft anwendet. Sie widerspricht nicht der geistigen Erforschung der Tatsachen. Nur derjenige, der glaubt, daß diese materialistische Beschreibung der Tatsachen die einzige ist, der fühlt sich in seiner wissenschaftlichen Erhabenheit selbstverständlich sehr weit hinausgehoben über alles, was die Geistesforschung vorzubringen hat. Also was man die modifizierte Kant-Laplacesche Theorie nennt, mag als ein äußeres Ereignis durchaus gelten. 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