{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 102/1908-02-15/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"When our Earth came forth from the purely spiritual devachanic state and received for the first time a kind of externally perceptible existence, it was not like it is today. In fact, seen externally, it could really be pictured as a kind of great primordial nebula, as our physical science describes. Only we must think of this primordial mist as immense, far greater than the present earth, extending far beyond the outermost planets now belonging to our solar system—far beyond Uranus. To spiritual science what is seen coming forth from a spiritual condition is not merely a kind of physical mist. To describe it as a kind of mist and nothing more is about as sensible as if a man who has seen another should reply to a question as to what he saw: I saw muscles which are attached to bones and blood—simply describing the physical aspect. For in the primordial mist there were a multitude of spiritual forces and spiritual beings. They belonged to it, and what happened in this primordial mist was a consequence of the deeds of spiritual beings. All that the physicist sees when he sets out a chair in cosmic space and watches the proceedings, he describes just as the observer who denied the passion and anger and described only the moving hand. In reality, what took place there—the separating off of cosmic bodies and globes—was the act of spiritual beings; in the primordial mist, therefore, we must see the garment, the outer manifestation, of a multitude of spiritual beings.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Spiritual Beings and Planetary Formation in Cosmic Evolution","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wer das, was da hervorkommt, als eine Art physischen Urnebel und als sonst nichts weiter schildert, ist etwa ebenso weise wie ein Mensch, der einen anderen Menschen gesehen hat und nun, wenn er gefragt wird, was er gesehen hat, sagt: Muskeln, die an Knochen hängen, und Blut habe ich gesehen! — der also nur das Physische beschreibt. Denn in dem Urnebel sind eine Fülle von geistigen Kräften und geistigen Wesenheiten enthalten. Die gehören dazu, und was in dem Urnebel geschieht, ist eine Folge der Taten der geistigen Wesenheiten. Alles, was der Physiker beschreibt, ist so, wie wenn er sich einen Stuhl in den Weltenraum hinausstellt und die ganze Geschichte sich anschaut. Er beschreibt wirklich so wie jener Beobachter, der den Zorn und die Leidenschaft, die eine Ohrfeige hervorrufen, leugnet und nur die sich bewegende Hand sieht. 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