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The beings who had human rank on the Moon and who were already at a higher stage than man went through it in a kind of watery condition.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Spiritual Beings and Planetary Formation in Cosmic Evolution","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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