{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 102/1908-05-16/p018","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now you will realize that everything material, right into the form, is a result of what stands actively behind this material. There are, for instance, beings like those I have just described to you which are unable to transform their astral body because they lack a spiritual nature. No ego works upon their astral body. This astral body with all its soul-experiences must come to expression in a material form. Yet the material form of beings through which no ego glows cannot be visible in our evolutionary phase. It cannot be visible because it lies one degree lower than our visible matter. I beg you to grasp clearly what is meant by that. If one tries to describe what constitutes a physical body, one can say that one sees it. One cannot see the etheric body because as regards substance it lies a stage higher than the physical body. Still less can one see the astral body because it lies higher still. But beneath physical matter there are also substances which cannot be seen. Of all matter only a middle strip or band is perceptible, just that strip which constitutes physical matter, perceptible to the physical eye. Just as substance continues upwards as physical foundation for the etheric and astral, so does it continue downwards and again becomes invisible. And now that we have considered the different members of the human being we shall be able to set before us the membering of these other beings.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture VIII","site_heading":"Elemental Beings and Human Evolution's Moral Consequences","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Diese materielle Gestalt, die eine solche nicht von einem Ich durchglühte Wesenheit hat, kann in unserer Entwickelungsphase nicht sichtbar sein in der physischen Welt, und sie ist deshalb nicht sichtbar, weil sie um einen Grad tiefer liegt als unsere sichtbare Materie. Fassen Sie das wohl, was damit gemeint ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":139,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-05-16/p013"},{"locus":"GA 102/1908-05-16/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"Wenn Sie sich klarmachen wollen, was Ihren physischen Leib ausmacht, so sagen Sie: Den physischen Leib kann man sehen. - Den Ätherleib können Sie nicht sehen, weil er eine Stufe höher liegt mit seiner Substantialität. Den astralischen Leib können Sie auch nicht sehen, weil er wieder eine Stufe höher liegt als der Ätherleib. Aber es liegt nun nicht nur Substantialität oberhalb, sondern auch unter der physischen Materie, und die kann auch wieder nicht gesehen werden, weil von aller Materie nur ein mittleres Streifband sichtbar ist, gerade das, was die physische Materie ausmacht, die mit den physischen Augen gesehen wird. Und geradeso wie sich nach oben das Substantielle fortsetzt in der physischen Grundlage des Ätherischen, des Astralen, so setzt es sich nach unten fort und wird da wiederum unsichtbar. 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