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Es war vielmehr so, wenn wir den Ausdruck gebrauchen dürfen — es stimmt nicht ganz für die damaligen Verhältnisse; wir brauchen ihn für den Zustand, in dem der Mensch mit seinem physischen Leib verbunden war -, es war so, daß der Mensch bei Tag, wenn er Tag hatte und er in seinen. physischen Leib untertauchte, soweit es damals der Fall war, keineswegs die äußeren physischen Wesenheiten und Dinge in solchen Grenzen sah wie heute; sondern er sah alles mit unbestimmten, nach außen verschwimmenden Konturen, wie wenn Sie an einem Nebelabend in den Straßen gehen und die Laternen mit einer Nebelaura umgeben sehen. So war es für den Menschen der damaligen Zeit mit allen Dingen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":204,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-06-01/p010"},{"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Und wenn so der Tageszustand war, wie war denn der Nachtzustand? Wenn der Mensch während der Nacht hinausging aus dem physischen Leib und Ätherleib, kam nicht absolute Unbewußtheit über ihn. Es war nur eine andere Art des Bewußtseins. In der damaligen Zeit nahm der Mensch auch noch die geistigen Vorgänge und geistigen Wesenheiten um sich herum wahr, nicht mehr genau wie im wirklichen Hellsehen, aber wie in einem letzten Rest, der von dem alten Hellsehen geblieben war. In einer Welt mit verschwommenen, nebulosen Grenzen lebte der Mensch bei Tag. Bei Nacht lebte er unter geistigen Wesenheiten, die um ihn herum waren wie heute die Tagesgegenstände, So war keine strenge Grenze zwischen Tag und Nacht, und das, was Sagen und Mythen enthalten, sind nicht Dinge einer beliebigen Volksphantasie, sondern Erinnerungen an die Erlebnisse, die der alte Mensch in seinem damaligen Bewußtseinszustand in der übersinnlichen Welt hatte. 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