{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p015-p016","extent":"range","passage_number":15,"through":16,"paragraph_count":2,"first_locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p015","last_locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p016","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"title":"Lecture IX","date":"1908-06-01","location":null,"alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"AP1961","book_title":"The Influence of Spiritual Beings on Man","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA102/English/AP1961/19080601p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. Cite the German for anything load-bearing."},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. Unknown is not an assurance of a stenogram: check the edition's own notes before resting an argument on one word.","evidence":null,"evidence_translation":null,"evidence_source":null},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5151,"original_word_count":5300,"may_be_abridged":false},"site_heading":"Elemental Beings and the Evolution from Group to Individual Soul","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/102/1908-06-01/p015-p016","json_url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/102/1908-06-01/p015-p016.json","lecture_url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/102/1908-06-01#p015","word_count":386,"quote_safe":true,"passages":[{"passage_number":15,"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p015","text":"Let us look at a second stage of human evolution—we will omit intermediate stages—, the stage referred to in the history of the Patriarchs of the Old Testament. What really underlies this we have already related. We have given the reason why the Patriarchs Adam, Noah, and so on, had such a long life time. It was because the memory of early mankind was quite different from that of contemporary man. The memory of modern man has in fact become individual, too. He remembers what he has experienced since birth—many actually from a much later point of time. This was not the case in ancient times. At that time what the father had experienced between birth and death, what had been experienced by the grandfather, the great-grandfather, were as much an object of memory as a man's own experiences. Strange as it seems to the modern man there was a time when memory went beyond the individual and back through the whole blood relationship. The external sign for the existence of such a memory is precisely such names as Noah, Adam, and so on. These names do not denote single individuals between birth and death. Today a name is given to the one individual whose memory is enclosed between birth and death. Formerly the giving of a name went as far as the memory reached back into the generations, as far as the blood flowed through the generations.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":238,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/102/1908-06-01/p015","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-06-01","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p013","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-06-01/p013"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":258,"en_words":238,"ratio":0.92,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"AP1961","book_title":"The Influence of Spiritual Beings on Man","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA102/English/AP1961/19080601p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. Cite the German for anything load-bearing.","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. An unattributed translation cannot be weighed as a witness: you cannot tell which hand made the choices in it. Cite the German for anything load-bearing."},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 102/1908-06-01/p013"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"high","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. That is a check on NAMES only: a translation can keep every name and still reverse who acts on whom, change a number, or soften a claim. Read the German for anything you intend to rest an argument on."},"note":"quote_safe certifies the bytes of this text. This block is about the translation as a WITNESS: who made it, and whether it carries the same names as the original. See witness_completeness for how much of the original this witness holds."}},{"passage_number":16,"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p016","text":"“Adam” is merely a name that lasted as long as the memory lasted. One who does not know that the giving of names in former times was quite different from what it is today will not be able to understand the nature of these things at all. A fundamental consciousness mediating quite differently existed in ancient times. Imagine that the ancestor had had two children, each of these two again, the next generation again two, and so forth. In all of them the memory reached up to the ancestor and they felt themselves *one* in the memory which meets up above, so to speak, in a common point. The people of the Old Testament expressed this by saying—and this applies to each single adherent of the Old Testament—“I and Father Abraham are one.” Each individual felt himself hidden in the consciousness of the group-soul, in the “Father Abraham.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":148,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/102/1908-06-01/p016","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-06-01","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p014","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-06-01/p014"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":142,"en_words":148,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. The German original passage(s) above are the edition-invariant anchor — fetch them (lang='de') to verify wording before quoting across editions."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"AP1961","book_title":"The Influence of Spiritual Beings on Man","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA102/English/AP1961/19080601p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. Cite the German for anything load-bearing.","warning":"No translator is recorded for this edition. An unattributed translation cannot be weighed as a witness: you cannot tell which hand made the choices in it. Cite the German for anything load-bearing."},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 102/1908-06-01/p014"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"high","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. That is a check on NAMES only: a translation can keep every name and still reverse who acts on whom, change a number, or soften a claim. Read the German for anything you intend to rest an argument on."},"note":"quote_safe certifies the bytes of this text. This block is about the translation as a WITNESS: who made it, and whether it carries the same names as the original. See witness_completeness for how much of the original this witness holds."}}],"witnesses":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"first_passage":1,"last_passage":29,"passage_count":29,"word_count":5300},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"first_passage":1,"last_passage":30,"passage_count":30,"word_count":5151,"completeness":{"ratio":0.97,"band":"comparable","note":null}}],"aligned_witness":{"status":"aligned","lang":"de","edition":"original","confidence":"high","passages":[{"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Wir betrachten eine zweite Etappe der Menschheitsentwickelung — Zwischenetappen lassen wir fort —, jene Etappe, auf die hingedeuter wird in der Patriarchengeschichte des Alten Testaments. Was da eigentlich zugrunde liegt, haben wir bereits erwähnt. Wir haben den Grund erwähnt, warum die Patriarchen, Adam, Noah und so weiter, eine so lange Lebenszeit hatten. Sie hatten eine so lange Lebenszeit, weil das Gedächtnis dieser Menschen ein ganz anderes als das des heutigen Menschen war. Das Gedächtnis des heutigen Menschen ist eben auch individuell geworden. Der Mensch erinnert sich an das, was er seit der Geburt — mancher auch erst seit einem viel späteren Zeitpunkt — erlebt hat. So war es nicht in alten Zeiten. Damals waren die Dinge, die der Vater zwischen Geburt und Tod erlebte, die Erlebnisse, die der Großvater, der Urgroßvater gehabt hatten, ebenso ein Gegenstand der Erinnerung wie die eigenen Erlebnisse zwischen Geburt und Tod. So sonderbar es sich für den heutigen Menschen ausnimmt, wahr ist es, daß es Zeiten gab, in denen eine solche über das Individuum hinausgehende, die ganze Blutsverwandtschaft hinaufgehende Erinnerung da war. Und wenn wir uns fragen, welche äußerlichen Zeichen es dafür gibt, daß eine solche Erinnerung vorhanden war, so sind es eben solche Namen wie Noah, Adam und so weiter. Damit sind nicht einzelne Individuen gemeint zwischen Geburt und Tod, Der Mensch, der ein Gedächtnis hat, das zwischen Geburt und Tod eingeschlossen ist, gibt diesem einen Individuum einen Namen. Die Namensgebungen gingen früher so weit, wie das Gedächtnis in die Generationen hinaufreichte, so weit, wie das durch die Generationen hindurchfließende Blut ging.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":258,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-06-01/p013"},{"locus":"GA 102/1908-06-01/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"‚Adam ist nichts anderes als ein Name, der so lange dauerte, als man sich erinnerte. Wer nicht weiß, daß die Namengebung früher eine ganz andere war, wird das Wesen dieser Dinge gar nicht verstehen können. In jenen alten Zeiten war eben ein ganz anderes vermittelndes Grundbewußtsein vorhanden. Denken Sie sich, der Ahnherr hätte zwei Kinder gehabt, jedes von diesen wieder zwei, die nächste Generation wieder zwei und so fort. Bei denen allen reicht das Gedächtnis bis zum Ahnherrn hinauf, und sie fühlten sich eins in dem Gedächtnis, das sich sozusagen da oben in einem Punkt begegnet. Das Volk des Alten Testamentes hat das ja zum Ausdruck gebracht, indem es sagte, und das galt für jeden einzelnen Bekenner des Alten Testamentes: «Ich und der Vater Abraham sind eins.» Da fühlte sich der Einzelne geborgen in dem Bewußtsein der Gruppenseele, in dem «Vater Abraham».","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":142,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/102/1908-06-01/p014"}],"beads":[{"from":[15],"to":[13],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[16],"to":[14],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}