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Then Nathaniel recognized Him: “Rabbi, Thou art the Son of God; Thou art the King of Israel!” This word “King” signifies in this connection: Thou art one who is higher than I, otherwise thou couldst not say, “I saw thee when thou sattest under the fig-tree.” And Christ answered, “Thou believest in me because I said that I saw thee under the fig-tree: thou shalt see greater things than these.” The words “verily, verily” we shall speak about later. Then He said: “I say unto you, ye shall see the angels of Heaven ascending and descending upon the Son of Man.” Yet greater things than they had already seen would be seen by those who were able to recognize the Christ. Again, one may ask: What significant words are these?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"V. 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Deshalb bezeichnete man einen solchen Eingeweihten mit dem Namen des betreffenden Volkes. - Nun wissen wir, daß uns im Johannes-Evangelium gesagt wird, daß unter den ersten Jüngern des Christus Jesus auch Nathanael ist. Er wird dem Christus vorgeführt. Er ist nicht so hoch eingeweiht, daß er den Christus zu durchschauen vermöchte. Der Christus ist natürlich der Geist des umfassenden Wissens, der von einem Nathanael, einem im fünften Grade Eingeweihten, nicht durchschaut werden kann. Aber der Christus durchschaut den Nathanael. Das zeigt sich durch zwei Tatsachen. Wie bezeichnet er selbst ihn?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":177,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p007"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"> «Das ist ein rechter Israeliter!» (1, 47)","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":8,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p008"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Da haben Sie die Bezeichnung nach dem Namen des Volkes. Wie man bei den Persern einen im fünften Grade Eingeweihten einen «Perser » nannte, so nannte man einen solchen bei den Israeliten einen «Israeliter». Daher nennt Christus den Nathanael einen «Israeliter». Und dann sagt er ihm:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":46,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p009"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p010","passage_number":10,"text":"> «Ehe denn dich Philippus rief, da du unter dem Feigenbaum warest, sah ich dich!» (1, 48)","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":17,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p010"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p011","passage_number":11,"text":"Das ist eine symbolische Bezeichnung für einen Eingeweihten, geradeso wie das Sitzen Buddhas unter dem Bodhi-Baum. Der Feigenbaum ist ein Symbol der ägyptisch-chaldäischen Einweihung. Er will ihm damit sagen: Oh, ich weiß wohl, daß du ein in gewissem Sinne Eingeweihter bist und gewisse Dinge durchschauen kannst, denn ich sah dich. Und nun erkennt ihn Nathanael:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":55,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p011"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"> «Nathanael antwortet und spricht zu ihm: ‹Meister, du bist Gottes Sohn und ein König in Israel.› » (1, 49)","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":20,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p012"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Das Wort «König» bedeutet in dieser Zusammensetzung: Du bist ein Höherer als ich, denn sonst könntest du nicht sagen: «Da du unter dem Feigenbaum saßest, sah ich dich.» Und der Christus antwortet darauf:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":33,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p013"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"> «Du glaubest mir, weil ich dir gesagt habe, daß ich dich gesehen habe unter dem Feigenbaum; du wirst noch Größeres denn das sehen.» (1, 50)","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":26,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p014"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Die Worte «wahrlich, wahrlich» werden wir noch zu besprechen haben. 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