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And what he hath seen and heard, to that he testifieth: and no man receiveth his testimony.\n> But he that hath received his testimony hath set his seal that God is true.\n> For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":85,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/103/1908-05-23/p033","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-05-23","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p040","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p040"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false,"length_check":{"de_words":74,"en_words":85,"ratio":1.15,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Überall werden Sie darauf hingewiesen, daß Christus der Missionar ist von dem selbständigen Ich, das sich in jeder Menschenindividualität findet. Daher darf er auch sagen: Ich spreche, wenn ich von mir spreche, in höherem Sinne gar nicht von meinem in mir darin sitzenden Ich, sondern wenn ich von dem «Ich-bin» spreche, so spreche ich von einer Wesenheit, von etwas, was jeder in sich findet. Mein Ich ist eins mit dem Vater; aber das Ich überhaupt, das in jeder Persönlichkeit ist, ist eins mit dem Vater. — Das ist auch der tiefere Sinn der Unterweisung, die der Christus der Samariterin am Brunnen gibt. Ich möchte Sie vor allem an ein Wort erinnern, das Ihnen ein tiefes Verständnis eröffnen kann, wenn Sie es richtig verstehen: die Stelle des 31.bis 34. Verses im 3.Kapitel, die natürlich so gelesen werden muß, daß man sich bewußt ist, Johannes der Täufer sagt diese Worte:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":205,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p039"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p040","passage_number":40,"text":"> «Der von oben herkommt, ist über alle. Wer von der Erde ist, der ist von der Erde und redet von der Erde. Der vom Himmel kommt, der ist über alle und zeuget, was er gesehen und gehöret hat; und sein Zeugnis nimmt niemand an.  \n> Wer es aber annimmt, der besiegelt es, daß Gott wahrhaftig sei. Denn welchen Gott gesandt hat, der redet Gottesworte; denn Gott gibt den Geist nicht nach dem Maß.»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":74,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p040"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p041","passage_number":41,"text":"Ich möchte einmal den Menschen kennenlernen, der diese Worte nach dieser Übersetzung wirklich versteht. Was ist das für ein Gegensatz: «Der von Gott kommt, redet Gottesworte, denn Gott gibt den Geist nicht nach dem Maß!» Was ist der Sinn dieser Sätze?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":41,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p041"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p042","passage_number":42,"text":"Durch unzählige Reden will Christus sagen: Wenn ich von dem Ich spreche, so spreche ich von dem ewigen Ich im Menschen, das eins ist mit dem geistigen Urgrund der Welt. Wenn ich von diesem Ich spreche, spreche ich von etwas, was im Allerinnersten der Menschenseele wohnt. Hört mich jemand an — und jetzt redet er nur vom niederen Ich, das von dem Ewigen nichts fühlt -, der nimmt mein Zeugnis nicht an, der versteht mich gar nicht. Denn ich kann nicht von etwas sprechen, das von mir zu ihm hinüberfließt. Dann wäre er nicht selbständig. Jeder muß den Gott, den ich verkünde, in sich selbst als seinen ewigen Grund finden. - Nur ein paar Verse zurück finden Sie die Stelle:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":120,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p042"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p043","passage_number":43,"text":"> «Johannes aber taufte auch noch zu Enon, nahe bei Salim, denn es war viel Wassers daselbst; und sie kamen dahin und ließen sich taufen.  \n> Denn Johannes war noch nicht ins Gefängnis gelegt.  \n> Da erhub sich eine Frage unter den Jüngern des Johannes mit den Juden über die Reinigung» (3, 23-25),","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":53,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-23/p043"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-23/p044","passage_number":44,"text":"das heißt über die Form der Taufe. Wenn man eine solche Frage in diesem Kreise erhob, sprach man immer vom Zusammenhange mit dem Göttlichen und von dem Untertauchen des Menschen in die Materie, und wie man nach der alten Gottesidee mit dem Göttlichen durch die Gruppenseele verbunden war. Da kamen die anderen und sagten zu Johannes: Der Jesus tauft aber auch! Und da muß ihnen Johannes erst klarmachen, daß das, was durch den Jesus in die Welt kommt, etwas ganz Besonderes ist. Und er macht es ihnen klar dadurch, daß er sagt: Der Jesus lehrt nicht jenen Zusammenhang, der durch die alte Taufe symbolisiert wird, sondern er lehrt, wie der Mensch durch die freie Gabe des selbständig gewordenen Ichs selbst geführt wird; und jeder muß in sich selbst das «Ich-bin», den Gott, entdecken, nur dadurch kommt er in die Lage, das Göttliche in sich zu finden. - Wenn diese Worte so gelesen werden, dann wird der Zuhörer gewahr, daß Er selbst, daß das «Ich-bin» von Gott gesandt ist. 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