{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 103/1908-05-25/p011","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now let us go back to the very beginning of our present earthly planet. We know that it arose out of the ancient Moon. This ancient Moon we have called the “Cosmos of Wisdom.” At a certain stage of its evolution, this ancient Moon did not contain what we would call solid earth, and we must understand very clearly that the physical conditions were quite different on the embodiment of our planet which just preceded our present Earth. If you follow back as far as the ancient Saturn condition, you must not imagine that it would appear as our earth now appears, that you would find rocks upon which you could walk, and trees which you could climb. None of all this existed at that time. If you had approached ancient Saturn during the middle period of its evolution from far out in cosmic space, you would not, perhaps, have seen any special cosmic body moving about, but you would have been able to detect something very strange, namely, that you had come into a region where you felt as though you had crept into an oven. The only reality of this Saturn state was that it possessed a different degree of warmth from its environment. In no other way could it have been perceived. Occultism does not, like the present ordinary physics, distinguish three conditions of matter only, but it discerns still others. The physicist declares that at present there are solid, fluidic and gaseous bodies. Saturn, however, was not yet even gaseous. Our gaseous state is much denser than the densest state on Saturn. In occultism, we distinguish also the state of warmth which is not simply a state of matter in vibration, but a fourth substantial state. Saturn consisted only of this warmth and if we proceed from Saturn to the Sun, we experience a condensation of that ancient fiery planet. The Sun is the first gaseous embodiment of our planet; it is the first gaseous or airy body. The ancient Moon-state then condenses still further; it is a fluid body which only later, when the sun departs from it, assumes a more dense condition. The actual middle condition, however, while it is still united with the sun, is the fluidic state. All that we today call mineral earth, the mineral, rocks, surface soil, all this did not exist on the ancient Moon. This appeared for the first time upon our Earth, crystallizing itself out of it.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. 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Das alles war gar nicht vorhanden. Wenn Sie aus dem Weltenraum von weit her sich dem alten Saturn genähert hätten im mittleren Zustande seiner Entwickelung, dann hätten Sie nicht etwa irgendeinen besonderen Weltenkörper schweben sehen, sondern Sie hätten etwas Sonderbares gespürt, nämlich, daß Sie in eine Region hineingekommen wären, wo Sie so etwas gefühlt hätten, wie wenn Sie in einen Backofen hineingekrochen wären. Die einzige Wirklichkeit des Saturn war die, daß er einen anderen Wärmezustand hatte als seine Umgebung. Durch etwas anderes hätte man ihn nicht wahrnehmen können.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":204,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-25/p011"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-25/p012","passage_number":12,"text":"Der Okkultismus unterscheidet nicht so, wie die gegenwärtige triviale Physik, drei Zustände der Materie, sondern er unterscheidet noch mehr solcher Zustände. Der Physiker sagt: Gegenwärtig gibt es feste, flüssige und gasförmige Körper. Aber der Saturn war noch nicht einmal gasförmig. Der gasförmige Zustand ist viel dichter als der festeste Zustand des Saturn. Wir unterscheiden im Okkultismus noch den Wärmezustand, der nicht ein bloßer Bewegungszustand der Materie ist, sondern ein vierter substantieller Zustand. Nur aus Wärme bestand dieser Saturn; und wenn wir vom Saturn zur Sonne aufrücken, erleben wir zugleich eine Verdichtung dieses alten feurigen Planeten. Die Sonne ist die erste Verkörperung unseres Planeten, die gasig ist. Die Sonne erst ist ein gasförmiger oder luftförmiger Körper. Der Mond verdichtet sich dann weiter. Er ist ein flüssiger Körper, der später, als ihn die Sonne verläßt, erst einen dichteren Zustand annimmt; aber der eigentliche mittlere Zustand, wo er noch mit der Sonne vereinigt ist, ist der flüssige Zustand. Das aber, was wir die heutige mineralische Erde nennen, was Mineralien, Felsmassen sind, was Ackerkrume ist, das ist auf dem alten Mond noch nicht vorhanden gewesen. Das kommt erst auf unserer Erde, kristallisiert sich da heraus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":191,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-25/p012"}],"english":["GA 103/1908-05-25/p011"],"method":"length+anchor_constrained","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":395,"en_words":410,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","anchors","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 103/1908-05-25/p011","GA 103/1908-05-25/p012"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.09,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5739,"original_word_count":5264,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Maud B. 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