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If you trace human evolution very far back, you will find that in primeval times, the human creature did not yet possess eyes for seeing and ears for hearing in the physical world, but that, as Goethe says, all organs were still undifferentiated. As proof of this, just recall how certain lower animals today still have these undifferentiated organs. Certain lower animals have points through which they can distinguish only light and darkness, and out of these undifferentiated organs, eyes and ears have been moulded and formed. They have been worked into the plastic substance of the physical body. Because your eye has been moulded, there exists for you a world of colour, and because your ear has been sculptured, a world of tone is audible to you. No one has the right to say that a world does not really exist; he may only say, “I do not perceive it.” For to see the world in the true sense of the word, means that I have the organs with which to perceive it. One may say: “I know only this or that world,” but one may not say: “I do not admit of the existence of a world that someone else perceives.” A person who speaks in this manner demands that others too should perceive only just what he himself perceives, but nothing else; he claims authoritatively that only what he perceives is true. When at present someone appears and says: That is all Anthroposophical imagining, what Anthroposophists declare exists, does not exist,” he only proves that he and those like him do not perceive these worlds. We take the positive standpoint. Whoever grants only the existence of what he himself perceives, demands not only that we acknowledge what he knows, but he wishes to make an authoritative decision about something of which he knows nothing. There is no greater intolerance than that shown by official science toward Spiritual Science, and it will become even worse than it has ever been before! It appears in the most varied forms. People are not at all conscious of saying something which they should not allow themselves to say. In many gatherings of very good Christians, one can hear it said: \"Anthroposophists talk of some kind of an esoteric Christian teaching, but Christianity needs no esoteric teaching; for only that can be true which a simple, unpretentious mind can perceive and understand,\" which means, of course, only what the speaker can perceive and understand. He therefore requires that no one should perceive and understand anything different from what he himself perceives and understands. The infallibility of the Pope is quite properly not acknowledged in such Christian assemblies, but the infallibility of the individual is claimed today in the widest circles even by the Christians. Anthroposophy is attacked as a result of this papal standpoint in consequence of which each individual sets himself up as a kind of little pope.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":523,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/103/1908-05-30/p012","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-05-30","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-30/p013","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p013"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-30/p014","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p014"}],"bead_confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","anchors","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 103/1908-05-30/p013","GA 103/1908-05-30/p014"],"length_check":{"de_words":492,"en_words":523,"ratio":1.06,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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We have said that in anyone who aspires to initiation and has attained it, higher organs have been developed. How is this accomplished? It is a matter of understanding the human astral body in the state in which it exists in its purity. During the day this astral body is immersed in the physical body. There the forces of the physical body act upon it; it is not then free. It carries out the demands of the physical body; hence it is impossible to begin the development of these higher organs during the day. It can be begun when the astral body is out of the physical body, in sleep; only then can the astral body be moulded. The human astral body can only have its higher sense organs developed when they are carved into it during sleep, while outside the physical body. But we cannot manipulate a sleeping human being; that would not be possible for the modern man, if he wishes to perceive what is happening to him in sleep. If you have him in an unconscious condition, then he cannot observe this. Here there seems to be a contradiction, for the astral body is not conscious of its connection with the physical body during sleep. But *indirectly* it is possible that during the day the physical body is acted upon and the impressions which it then receives remain within the astral body when this is withdrawn at night. Just as the impressions which the astral body receives from the surrounding physical world have been impressed upon it, so in like manner we must do something quite specific with the physical body, in order that this something be imprinted upon the astral body and then be formed in it in the proper manner. This happens when the human being ceases to live in his customary way during the day, allowing random impressions to enter his consciousness, and takes his inner life in hand by means of a methodical schooling in the manner described. This is called Meditation, Concentration or Contemplation. These are exercises which are as strictly prescribed in the schools for the purpose, as microscopy is prescribed in the laboratories. If a person carries out these exercises, they act so intensely upon him that the astral body is plastically re-shaped when it withdraws during sleep. Just as this sponge adapts itself to the form of my hand as long as I hold it there, but forms itself again according to the forces inherent in it as soon as I release it, so in like manner is it with the astral body; when in sleep it withdraws from the corporality, it follows the astral forces invested in it. 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Wenn Sie die Menschheitsentwickelung weit zurück verfolgen, dann werden Sie finden, daß in Urzeiten der Mensch noch nicht Augen zum Sehen, Ohren zum Hören hatte in der physischen Welt, sondern daß das alles noch «undifferenzierte, gleichgültige Organe» waren, wie Goethe sagt. Zum Beweis dafür können Sie daran denken, wie gewisse niedere Tiere heute noch diese gleichgültigen Organe haben. Punkte haben gewisse niedere Tiere, wodurch sie nur Licht und Dunkel unterscheiden können. Und aus diesen gleichgültigen Organen ist nach und nach herausplastiziert, herausgeformt worden, was Auge und Ohr ist. Das ist hineingearbeitet worden in die plastische Substanz des physischen Leibes. Und indem Ihr Auge ausmodelliert worden ist, entstand für Sie die physische Welt der Farben, indem Ihr Ohr herausmodelliert worden ist, entstand die physische Welt der Töne.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":152,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p013"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-30/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"Niemand hat ein Recht zu sagen, daß eine Welt nicht wirklich sei; er darf nur sagen: Ich nehme sie nicht wahr. Denn die Welt im wirklichen Sinne sehen heißt: Ich habe Organe, sie wahrzunehmen. Man darf sagen: Ich kenne nur diese oder jene Welt; man darf aber nicht sagen: Ich lasse die Welt, die der andere wahrnimmt, nicht gelten. Denn der, der so spricht, verlangt, daß auch die anderen nichts anderes wahrnehmen dürfen als er; er verlangt autoritativ, daß nur das gilt, was er sieht. Wenn heute jemand auftritt und sagt: Das ist eine anthroposophische 'Träumerei, so etwas, wie es die Anthroposophen behaupten, gibt es nicht, - so beweist er nur, daß er und seinesgleichen solche Welten nicht wahrnehmen. Wir stellen uns auf den Ja-Standpunkt der Dinge. Wer aber nur das gelten läßt, was er wahrnimmt, der verlangt nicht nur, daß wir das zugeben, was er weiß, sondern der will autoritativ entscheiden über das, was er nicht weiß. Es gibt keine schlimmere Intoleranz als die, die heute von der offiziellen Wissenschaft der Geisteswissenschaft entgegengebracht wird, und die wird sich noch zu einer viel schlimmeren entwickeln, als sie jemals vorhanden war. Sie tritt unter den verschiedensten Formen auf. Die Menschen haben gar kein Bewußtsein dafür, daß sie irgend etwas sagen, was sie gar nicht sagen dürften. Bei vielen Versammlungen, die aus recht guten Christen bestehen, kann man es hören: Die Anthroposophen reden von irgendeiner christlichen Geheimlehre, aber das Christentum bedarf keiner Geheimlehre; denn es darf nur das gelten, was auch das einfache, schlichte Gemüt wahrnehmen und verstehen kann! — das heißt natürlich nichts anderes, als was er, der einzelne, der gerade redet, wahrnehmen und verstehen kann. Also er verlangt, daß keiner etwas anderes verstehe und wahrnehme als er. Die Unfehlbarkeit des Papstes wird mit Recht in solchen christlichen Versammlungen nicht zugegeben. Aber die Unfehlbarkeit der eigenen Persönlichkeit wird heute im weitesten Umfange, auch bei Christen, für die eigene Person in Anspruch genommen. Die Anthroposophie wird vom Standpunkte des Papsttums aus bekämpft, wo sich jeder selbst zu einer Art von Päpstlein aufwirft.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":340,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p014"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-30/p015","passage_number":15,"text":"Wenn wir bedenken, daß die physisch-sinnliche Welt dadurch für uns vorhanden ist, daß die einzelnen Organe in den physischen Leib hineinziseliert worden sind, dann wird es auch nicht mehr auffällig erscheinen, wenn gesagt wird: Die Wahrnehmung in einer höheren Welt beruht darauf, daß in die höheren Glieder der menschlichen Wesenheit, in Ätherleib und astralischen Leib, solche höhere Organe hineingebaut werden. Der physische Leib ist heute mit seinen Organen in dieser Weise schon ausgerüstet, der Ätherleib und Astralleib noch nicht; da müssen sie erst hineinziseliert werden. Sind sie darinnen, dann entsteht das, was man die Wahrnehmung in den höheren Welten nennt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":100,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p015"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-30/p016","passage_number":16,"text":"Wir wollen jetzt davon sprechen, wie man diese Organe in den Äther- und Astralleib hineinbaut. Wir sagten, daß bei dem, der die Einweihung anstrebt und erhält, die höheren Organe herausmodelliert werden. Wie macht man das? Es handelt sich darum, daß man den Astralleib des Menschen abfaßt da, wo er in seiner Reinheit zu haben ist. Während der astralische Leib im Tagwachen untergetaucht ist in den physischen Leib, wirken die Kräfte des physischen Leibes auf den Astralleib; da hat man ihn also nicht frei. Da folgt er dem, was der physische Leib will, da kann man sozusagen nichts anfangen mit ihm. Man kann etwas anfangen mit ihm, man kann nur dann ihn modellieren, wenn er im Schlafe aus dem physischen Leibe heraus ist. Nur dadurch kann der Astralleib eines Menschen die höheren Sinnesorgane ausgebildet erhalten, daß man sie ihm hineinziseliert, während er außerhalb des physischen Leibes ist, im Schlafe. Nun kann man aber am schlafenden Menschen nicht herumhantieren. Das wäre beim heutigen Menschen nicht möglich, wenn er das, was mit ihm geschieht, wahrnehmen soll. Wenn Sie ihn im bewußtlosen Zustande haben, kann er das nicht wahrnehmen. Hier scheint ein Widerspruch vorzuliegen, denn der Astralleib ist sich seines Zusammenhanges mit dem physischen Leibe nicht bewußt, während der Mensch schläft. Aber indirekt geht es zu machen dadurch, daß man während des Tagwachens auf den physischen Leib wirkt, so daß die Eindrücke, die der physische Leib während des Tagwachens erhält, im Astralleib bleiben, wenn dieser sich herauszieht. Geradeso wie sonst im Astralleib die Eindrücke, die er durch die umliegende physische Welt erhält, eingedrückt sind, so muß man etwas ganz Spezifisches mit dem physischen Leibe anfangen, damit das sich in den astralischen Leib eindrückt und dann in der entsprechenden Weise ausgebildet wird. Das geschieht nun, indem der Mensch nicht immer so in den Tag hineinlebt, wie es sonst der Fall ist, und Eindrücke von da und dort hereinkommen läßt, sondern indem er in der durch eine methodische Schulung vorgeschriebenen Art sein inneres Leben in die Hand nimmt. Man nennt das Meditation, Konzentration oder Kontemplation. Das sind Übungen, die ebenso streng vorgeschrieben sind in den entsprechenden Schulen wie in den Laboratorien das Mikroskopieren und so weiter. Wenn ein Mensch solche Übungen macht, wirken sie so intensiv auf ihn ein, daß der astralische Leib, wenn er herausrutscht während des Schlafes, sich plastisch umgestaltet. Gerade so wie der Schwamm hier, solange ich ihn in meiner Hand habe, sich den Formen der Hand anpaßt, aber sobald ich ihn wieder loslasse, sich wieder nach den Kräften formt, die in ihm sind, ebenso ist es mit dem astralischen Leibe: Wenn er im Schlafe aus der Leiblichkeit heraustritt, folgt er den astralischen Kräften, die in ihm angelegt sind. So muß man während des Tagwachens diejenigen geistigen Verrichtungen vornehmen, durch welche in der Nacht der astralische Leib sich so plastisch gestaltet, daß er in sich die Organe bildet zum höheren Wahrnehmen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":478,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-30/p016"}],"beads":[{"from":[12],"to":[13,14],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"},{"from":[13],"to":[15],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"proposed"},{"from":[14],"to":[16],"confidence":"high","pairing_state":"verified"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}