{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now what does this mean? It means that in the historical personality of Jesus of Nazareth, we have to do with a highly developed human being who had passed through many incarnations and after a cycle of high development was again reincarnated; a person who, because of this, was attracted to a mother so pure that the writer of the Gospel could call her the “Virgin Sophia.” Thus we are dealing with a highly developed human being, Jesus of Nazareth, who had progressed far in his evolution in his previous incarnations and in this incarnation had entered upon a highly spiritual stage. The other evangelists were not illuminated to such a high degree as the writer of this Gospel. It was more the actual sense-world that was revealed to them, a world in which they saw their Master and Messiah moving about as Jesus of Nazareth. The mysterious spiritual relationships, at least those of the heights into which the writer of the Gospel of St. John could peer, were concealed from them. For this reason they laid special emphasis upon the fact that in Jesus of Nazareth lived the Father, who had always existed in Judaism and was transmitted down through the generations as the God of the Jews. And they expressed this when they said: “If we trace back the ancestry of Jesus of Nazareth through generation after generation, we are able to prove that the same blood flows in Him that has flowed down through these generations.” The evangelists give the genealogical tables and precisely according to them they also show at what different stages of evolution they stand. For Matthew, the important thing is to show that in Jesus of Nazareth we have a person in whom Father Abraham is living. The blood of Father Abraham has flowed down through the generations as far as Jesus. He thus traces the genealogical tables back to Abraham. He has a more materialistic point of view than Luke. The important thing for Luke was not alone to show that the God who lived in Abraham was present in Jesus, but that the ancestry, the line of descent, can be traced back still further, even to Adam and that Adam was a son of the very Godhead, which means that he belonged to the time when humanity had just made the transition from a spiritual to a physical state. Both Matthew and Luke wished to show that this earthly Jesus of Nazareth has His being only in what can be traced back to the divine Father-power. This was not a matter of importance for the writer of the Gospel of St. John who could gaze into the spiritual world. The important thing for him was not the words, “I and Father Abraham are one,” but that at every moment of time, there exists in the human being an Eternal which was present in him before Father Abraham. This he wished to show. In the beginning was the Word which is called the “I AM.” Before all external things and beings, He was. He was in the beginning. For those who wished rather to describe Jesus of Nazareth and were only able to describe him, it was a question of showing how from the beginning the blood flowed down through the generations. It was important to them to show that the same blood flowing down through the generations flowed also in Joseph, the father of Jesus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XII. The Nature of the Virgin Sophia and of the Holy Spirit","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-05-31","location":null,"word_count":574,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/103/1908-05-31/p017","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:embedding","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Maud B. 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Das heißt folgendes.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":67,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-31/p017"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Wir haben es zunächst zu tun in der historischen Persönlichkeit des Jesus von Nazareth mit einem hochentwickelten Menschen, der durch viele Inkarnationen hindurchgegangen und wiederverkörpert ist nach einer hohen Entwickelungsperiode, der dadurch hingezogen wurde zu einer so reinen Mutter, daß der Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums sie nennen durfte die «Jungfrau Sophia». Wir haben es also zu tun mit einem hochstehenden Menschen, dem Jesus von Nazareth, der in seiner Entwickelung schon in der vorhergehenden Inkarnation weit vorangekommen war und in diese Inkarnation auf einer hohen geistigen Stufe eintrat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":86,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-31/p018"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p019","passage_number":19,"text":"Die anderen Evangelisten außer dem Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums sind nicht in einem so hohen Maße erleuchtet wie der Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums. Ihnen ist vielmehr die sinnliche, wirkliche Welt offen, in der sie ihren Meister und Messias wandeln sehen als Jesus von Nazareth. Dagegen sind ihnen die geheimeren spirituellen Zusammenhänge, wenigstens in denjenigen Höhen verborgen, in die der Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums blickt. Sie müssen daher einen ganz besonderen Wert darauf legen, daß sich in dem Jesus von Nazareth dasjenige auslebt, was immerdar gelebt hat im Judentum, was immer im Judentum sich fortgepflanzt hat als der dutch alle Generationen gehende Gott der Juden, der Vater. Daher drücken sie das auch aus. Sie sagen: Wenn wir die Abstammung des Jesus von Nazareth durch die Generationen zurückverfolgen, so können wir nachweisen, daß wirklich in ihm das Blut rinnt, das durch die Generationen hindurchgeronnen ist. — Sie geben daher die Geschlechtsregister an, und zwar entsprechend dem, wie sie selbst wiederum auf den verschiedenen Stufen der Entwickelung stehen. Matthäus kommt es vor allem darauf an, daß er zeigt: Wir haben in dem Jesus von Nazareth einen Menschen vor uns, in dem der Vater Abraham lebt; das Blut des Vaters Abraham ist heruntergeronnen bis zu ihm. Daher gibt er das Geschlechtsregister an bis zu Abraham (Matth. i, i-17). Er steht auf einem materielleren Standpunkt als Lukas. Letzterem kommt es darauf an, nicht nur zu zeigen, daß der Gott in Jesus lebte, der schon in Abraham lebte, sondern ihm kommt es darauf an, zu zeigen, daß man die Abstammung, die Blutsfolge noch weiter hinauf bis zu Adam verfolgen kann, und Adam war ein Sohn der Gottheit selbst, das heißt er gehörte der Zeit an, wo die Menschen erst aus der Geistigkeit in die Leiblichkeit übergegangen sind (Lukas 3, 23-38). Darauf kommt es beiden, Matthäus und Lukas, an: zu zeigen, daß dieser zeitliche Jesus von Nazareth voll darinnen steckt in dem, was auf die göttliche Vaterschaft selbst zurückführt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":319,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-31/p019"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"Dem Schreiber des Johannes-Evangeliums, der in das Spirituelle blickte, kam es darauf nicht an; denn ihm kam es nicht an auf das Wort: «Ich und der Vater Abraham sind eins», sondern er wollte zeigen: Jeden Augenblick gibt es im Menschen ein Ewiges, das vor dem Vater Abraham im Menschen war. Es war im Urbeginn der Logos, der da heißt «Ich-bin ». Früher, als alle äußeren Dinge und Wesenheiten waren, war er; er war im Urbeginn.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":75,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-31/p020"},{"locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p021","passage_number":21,"text":"Es handelte sich also für die, die mehr schildern wollten den Jesus von Nazareth und auch nur ihn schildern konnten, darum, zu zeigen, wie das Blut von Anfang an herunterrann durch die Generationen. 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