{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 103/1908-05-31/p018","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"If we could speak quite esoterically it would naturally be necessary to speak of the idea of the so-called “virgin birth,” but this can be discussed only in the most intimate circles. It belongs to the deepest mysteries that exist and the misunderstanding connected with this idea arises because people do not know what is meant by the “virgin birth.” They think that it means there was no fatherhood. But it is not that; a much more profound, a more mysterious something lies at the back of it which is quite compatible with what the other disciples wish to show, that is, that Joseph is the father of Jesus. If they were to deny this, then all the trouble they take to show this to be a fact would be meaningless. They wish to show that the ancient God exists in Jesus of Nazareth. Luke especially wished to make this very clear, therefore he traces the whole ancestry back to Adam and then to God. How could he have come to this conclusion, if he really wished only to say: I am showing you that this genealogical tree exists, but Joseph, as a matter of fact, had nothing to do with it. It would be very strange if people were to take the trouble to represent Joseph as a very important personality and then were to shove him aside out of the whole affair.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"XII. The Nature of the Virgin Sophia and of the Holy Spirit","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-05-31","location":null,"word_count":234,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/103/1908-05-31/p018","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:embedding","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Maud B. 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Und mit dem, was dahinter liegt, ist gerade dasjenige vereinbar, was die andern Evangelisten zeigen wollen: daß Joseph der Vater ist. Würden sie das in Abrede stellen, so würde es völlig sinnlos sein, was sie sich zu zeigen bemühen. Sie wollen zeigen, daß der alte Gott im Jesus von Nazareth lebt. Lukas insbesondere will es deutlich zeigen. Daher führt er die ganze Geschlechtsfolge bis hinauf zu Adam und dann zu Gott. Wie käme er sonst zu diesem Resultat, wenn er eigentlich nur sagen wollte: Ich zeige euch, daß dieser Stammbaum existiert, aber eigentlich hat der ganze Joseph gar nichts damit zu tun. Es wäre doch sonderbar, wenn sich die Leute bemühten, den Joseph als eine so wichtige Persönlichkeit hinzustellen, und ihn dann wiederum abschieben von dem ganzen Vorgang.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":221,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/103/1908-05-31/p022"}],"english":["GA 103/1908-05-31/p018"],"method":"reader","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":221,"en_words":234,"ratio":1.06,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 103/1908-05-31/p022"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7995,"original_word_count":7635,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Maud B. 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