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We must remember that man has only gradually gained the degree of individual consciousness he now possesses. He could not always say “I” to himself as he does to-day. We need only go back to the time when the Cherusci, the Heruli, etc., lived in the parts now inhabited by the Germans. The different human beings did not then feel themselves as separate human egos, but as members of the tribe. Just as a finger does not feel itself to be something existing independently, so each Cheruscan did not feel that he could unconditionally say “I” to himself; his “I” was the “I” of the whole tribe. The tribe represented a single organism and a group of men who were related by blood had one “I”-soul in common. In those days you yourselves were members of a great community, just as to-day your two arms belong to your “I.” This may be clearly seen in the case of the people dealt with in the Old Testament. Each single member felt himself to be a member of the race. The individual did not speak of himself in the highest sense when he uttered the ordinary “I,” but he felt something deeper when he said “I and the Father Abraham are one.” For he felt a certain “I”-consciousness which descended from Abraham through all the generations to each member of the race. That which was related by blood was included in one “I.” It was like a common group-soul-“I” which included the whole race and those that understood the matter said: That which really forms our inmost immortal being dwells not in the separate members but in the entire race. All of the several members belong to this common “I.” Hence one who understood the matter knew that when he died he united himself with an invisible being which reached back to Father Abraham. The individual really felt that he returned into Abraham's bosom. He felt that his immortal part found refuge, as it were, in the group-soul of the race. This group-soul of the entire race could not descend to the physical plane. The people themselves saw only the separate human forms, but these were to them not the reality, for this was in the spiritual world. They dimly felt that that which flowed through the blood was the Divine. And because they had to see God in Jehovah they called this Divinity “Jahve” or also his Countenance, “Michael.” They considered Jahve as the spiritual group-soul of the people.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":508,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/104/1908-06-19/p013","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-06-19","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p012","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p012"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p013","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p013"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","anchors","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 104/1908-06-19/p012","GA 104/1908-06-19/p013"],"length_check":{"de_words":496,"en_words":508,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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The initiate, on the other hand, who experienced the great moment when the astral body was imprinted in the etheric body, was able to see first of all the most important group-souls. When we look back into ancient periods of humanity we everywhere find that the present “I” has developed from such a group-consciousness, a group-ego; so that when the seer looks back he finds that the individual human beings flow together more and more into the group-souls. Now there are four chief types of group-souls, four prototypes. If we observe all the various group-souls of the different souls we notice a certain similarity but there are also differences. If we classify them there are four groups, four types. The spiritual observer sees them clearly when he looks back to the time when man was not yet in the flesh, when he had not descended to the earth. We must now consider more exactly the moment when from the spiritual regions man descended into flesh. 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Was konnte er sich in gewisser Beziehung als bedeutsames Erinnerungsbild seines Schauens vor die Seele rufen? Wenn wir uns klarmachen wollen, was der Betreffende gesehen hatte, dann müssen wir ein wenig hinblicken auf die Entwickelung des Menschen. Wir müssen uns erinnern, daß erst allmählich der Mensch jenen Grad individuellen Bewußtseins bekommen hatte, den er heute hat. Daß er in einer solchen Weise zu sich Ich sagen kann, wie er es heute tut, das war nicht immer der Fall. Wir brauchen nur zurückzugehen in die Zeit, als die Cherusker, Heruler und so weiter in den Gegenden wohnten, wo heute die Deutschen leben. Da fühlte sich der einzelne nicht als Einzelmenschen-Ich, sondern als Glied seines Stammes. Wie die Finger sich nicht fühlen als etwas für sich Bestehendes, so fühlte der einzelne Cherusker nicht in der Weise, daß er zu sich unbedingt Ich sagte. Das Ich war das Ich des ganzen Stammes. Der Stamm stellte einen Organismus dar, und zusammengehörige Gruppen von Menschen, die in der Blutsverwandtschaft verbunden waren, hatten sozusagen eine gemeinschaftliche Ich-Seele. Wie heute Ihre zwei Arme zu Ihrem Ich gehören, so waren Sie selbst Glieder einer größeren Gemeinschaft in jenen Zeiten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":241,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p012"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p013","passage_number":13,"text":"Das ist ja noch deutlich ausgesprochen bei dem Volke, das sich bekennt zum Alten Testamente. Da fühlte sich als ein Glied des Volkes jeder einzelne. Es ist so, daß der einzelne nicht im höchsten Sinne von sich sprach, wenn er das gewöhnliche Ich aussprach, sondern daß er etwas Tieferes fühlte, wenn er sagte: «Ich und der Vater Abraham sind eins.» Denn für ihn ging bis Abraham hinauf ein gewisses Ich-Bewußtsein, das durch alle Generationen von Abraham bis zum einzelnen herunterkam. Was blutsverwandt war, das war in einem Ich beschlossen. Es war wie eine gemeinsame IchGruppenseele, die das ganze Volk umfaßte, und diejenigen, die die Dinge durchschauten, sagten sich: Das, was wirklich unser innerstes, unvergängliches Wesen ausmacht, das wohnt nicht im einzelnen, das wohnt im ganzen Volke. Alle einzelnen Glieder gehören zu diesem gemeinsamen Ich. — Daher war sich auch jeder solcher Bekenner klar: Stirbt er, dann vereinigt er sich mit einer unsichtbaren Wesenheit, die hinaufgeht bis zum Vater Abraham. Wirklich fühlte der einzelne, daß er hinaufkam in den Schoß Abrahams. Da fühlte er sich wie im Unvergänglichen geborgen in der Gruppenseele des Volkes. Diese Gruppenseele des ganzen Volkes konnte nicht heruntersteigen auf den physischen Plan. Da sahen sie nur einzelne Menschengestalten. Aber die waren ihnen nicht die Wirklichkeit, sondern die Wirklichkeit war in der geistigen Welt. Sie ahnten, daß das, was durch das Blut fließt, das Göttliche sei. Und weil sie den Gott sehen mußten in Jehova, nannten sie dieses Göttliche Jahve, oder auch sein Antlitz: Michael. Als geistige Gruppenseele des Volkes betrachteten sie Jahve.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":255,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p013"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p014","passage_number":14,"text":"Der einzelne Mensch hier konnte diese geistigen Wesenheiten nicht sehen. Der Eingeweihte, der den großen Moment erlebte, wo der astralische Leib in den Ätherleib hineingedruckt wurde‘ der bekam zuerst die wichtigsten Gruppenseelen zu schauen. Wenn wir nämlich zurückschauen in die alten Zeiten der Menschheit, so finden wir überall, daß das gegenwärtige Ich sich herausentwickelt hat aus solchem Gruppenbewußtsein, Gruppen-Ich, so daß für den Seher, wenn er zurückschaut, die einzelnen Menschen immer mehr zusammenströmen in die Gruppenseelen. Nun gibt es hauptsächlich vier Typen von Gruppenseelen, vier Urbilder von Gruppenseelen. Wenn man alle verschiedenen Gruppenseelen der verschiedenen Seelen nimmt, so haben sie eine gewisse Ähnlichkeit, aber auch Verschiedenheiten. Teilt man sie ein, so erhält man vier Gruppen, vier Urbilder. Man bekommt sie deutlich zu sehen, wenn man hellseherisch zurückschaut in jene Zeit, als der Mensch noch nicht im Fleische war, noch nicht herabgestiegen war auf die Erde. Denn jetzt müssen wir uns genauer darstellen den Moment, wo der Mensch herabgestiegen ist ins Fleisch aus den geistigen Regionen. 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