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But now the physical and etheric bodies as they are to-day, belong to the present physical human body; and to the present etheric body belong the astral body and the “I.” This physical and this etheric body cannot exist alone. They have become what they are because the astral body and “I” have been membered into them. Only a physical body which contains neither blood nor nerves can exist without an astral body and “I.” That is the reason why the plant can exist without astral body and “I,” because it has neither blood nor nervous system, for the nervous system is connected with the astral body and the blood with the “I.” There is no being having a nervous system in the physical body which is not permeated by an astral body and there is no human being having a blood system in the physical body into which the “I” has not entered. Think of what you do every night. You callously desert your physical and etheric bodies and leave them with the blood and nervous systems to themselves. If it merely depended upon you, your physical body would have to die every night through your deserting your nervous and blood systems; it would die the very moment the astral body and “I ” left the physical and etheric bodies. But the spiritual investigator sees how other beings, higher spiritual beings, then occupy it. He sees how they pass into it and do what man does not do in the night, namely, take care of the blood and nervous systems. These are the same beings, however, who have created man, in so far as he consists of a physical body and etheric body, not only to-day but from incarnation to incarnation. They are the same beings who caused the first rudiments of the physical body to originate upon ancient Saturn and who formed the etheric body upon the Sun. These beings who from the very beginning of the Saturn and Sun periods have ruled in the physical and etheric bodies, now rule every night while man is asleep and basely leaves his physical and etheric bodies, surrendering them to death, so to speak; they penetrate and take care of his blood and nervous systems.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":443,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/104/1908-06-19/p019","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1908-06-19","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p019","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p019"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":414,"en_words":443,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Denken Sie sich, der Mensch liegt im Bette, verläßt mit seinem Astralleib und Ich den physischen Leib und Ätherleib. Nun gehören aber zum physischen Leib und Ätherleib, wie sie heute sind, zum heutigen physischen Menschenleib und Ätherleib der astralische Leib und das Ich. Für sich kann dieser physische Leib und kann dieser Ätherleib nicht bestehen. Sie sind so geworden, weil ihnen der astralische Leib und das Ich eingegliedert sind. Nur ein physischer Leib, in dem kein Blut fließt und kein Nervensystem ist, kann ohne astralischen Leib und Ich sein. Deshalb kann die Pflanze ohne astralischen Leib und Ich sein, weil sie kein Blut und kein Nervensystem hat. Denn das Nervensystem hängt zusammen mit dem astralischen Leib und das Blut mit dem Ich. Kein Wesen hat im physischen Leib ein Nervensystem, das nicht durchdrungen ist von einem astralischen Leibe, und kein Wesen hat im physischen Leibe ein Blutsystem, in das nicht das Ich eingezogen ist. Denken Sie, was Sie jede Nacht tun. Sie verlassen schnöde Ihren physischen und Ätherleib und überlassen sie mit dem Blut- und Nervensystem sich selber. Wenn es bloß auf Sie ankäme, würde in jeder Nacht dadurch, daß Sie Ihr Nerven- und Blutsystem verlassen, der physische Leib zugrunde gehen müssen. Er würde in demselben Augenblicke sterben, wo der astralische Leib und das Ich den physischen und den Ätherleib verlassen. Aber der hellsehende Blick sieht, wie dann andere Wesenheiten, höhere geistige Wesenheiten ihn ausfüllen. Er sieht, wie sie in ihn hineingehen und das tun, was der Mensch in der Nacht eben nicht tut: das Blut- und Nervensystem versorgen. Das sind dieselben Wesenheiten aber, welche den Menschen, soweit er aus einem physischen und Ätherleib besteht, geschaffen haben; nicht bloß heute, von Inkarnation zu Inkarnation. Es sind die gleichen Wesenheiten, die auf dem alten Saturn die erste Anlage des physischen Leibes entstehen ließen und die auf der Sonne den Ätherleib herausgebildet haben. Diese Wesenheiten, die gewaltet haben vom Urbeginn des Saturn- und Sonnendaseins an im physischen und Ätherleib, sie walten in ihm jede Nacht, während der Mensch schläft und den physischen und den Ärherleib schnöde verläßt, sozusagen sie dem Tode preisgibt; sie dringen hinein und versorgen sein Nerven- und Blutsystem.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":414,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p019"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-19/p020","passage_number":20,"text":"Daher ist es auch begreiflich, daß in dem Moment, wo der Astralleib den Ätherleib berührt, um sich in ihm abzudrucken, daß, da der Mensch von diesen Kräften, die ihn gebildet haben, durchdrungen ist, daß er da das Bild dieser Kräfte sieht, die in dem zweiten Siegel symbolisiert sind. Was ihn erhält und zusammenhängend macht mit dem ganzen kosmischen Weltall, das leuchtet auf in diesem Moment der Einweihung. Er sieht dasjenige, was die beiden Glieder seiner Wesenheit, den physischen und den Ätherleib, gebildet hat, was sie jede Nacht in ihrem Leben aufrecht erhält. Er selbst aber hat noch keinen Anteil daran, denn er kann noch nicht in diese beiden Glieder seines Wesens hineinarbeiten. Dem Menschen nach würde der physische und der Ätherleib, die in der Nacht im Bette liegen, zum Pflanzendasein verdammt sein, denn er überläßt beide sich selbst. Daher ist für den Menschen der Schlafzustand ein unbewußter, wie ihn die Pflanze immer hat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":153,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-19/p020"}],"beads":[{"from":[19],"to":[19],"confidence":"medium"},{"from":[20],"to":[20],"confidence":"medium"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}