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We said that at a certain stage of initiation the Initiate sees in the spiritual world that which descends later and becomes a physical event. But in the last two lectures we have shown that there is another basis for the prophetic art. We showed how man has developed out of spiritual spheres to his present existence. 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He has had to content himself with seeing only what is around him in the physical world in the so-called waking consciousness. This is now the normal condition. But in its place it has become possible for him fully to develop his self-consciousness, his individual “I,” during this time, to feel himself within his skin as a separate “I”-personality, so to speak. This he has won. Now he also retains this individuality when he again rises into the higher spiritual worlds, and this ascent will be possible to him after the great War of All against All. But this ascent would not be possible if he had not taken part in that great cosmic event in the middle of our epoch which runs its course in the physical world, as was shown in the last lecture. Man would have been obliged to sink down into a kind of abyss had he not been preserved from it by the entry of Christ into our world. 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Wir werden, wenn wir die Apokalypse des Johannes selbst immer mehr und mehr enthüllen, solche prophetische Künste in ausgiebigstem Maße anzuwenden haben. Nun fragt es sich: Aus welchen Gründen heraus darf man überhaupt über diese Dinge sprechen? — Wir haben zum Teil, was da zugrunde liegt, gleich im Anfange unserer Vorträge erwähnt. Wir haben nämlich gesagt, daß sich auf gewisser Einweihungsstufe dem Eingeweihten in der geistigen Welt das zeigt, was dann heruntersteigt und physisches Ereignis wird. Aber wir haben mit den zwei Betrachtungen, die wir angestellt haben, mit der letzten und vorletzten, noch eine andere Grundlage geschaffen für solche prophetische Künste. Wir haben nämlich dargestellt, wie der Mensch sich aus geistigen Sphären herausentwickelt hat zu seinem heutigen Dasein. Und nun ist alle Zukunft in einer gewissen Beziehung auch eine Wiederholung der Vergangenheit. Nicht so, daß sich die Dinge der Vergangenheit in gleicher Weise noch einmal abspielen, aber in einem veränderten Sinn wiederholen sich vergangene Ereignisse in zukünftigen Zeiten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":206,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-24/p003"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-24/p004","passage_number":4,"text":"Wenn wir in den letzten Betrachtungen darauf hingewiesen haben, daß der Mensch in der alten atlantischen Zeit eine Art Hellsehen hatte, daß er namentlich während seines Nachtzustandes bewußt hinaufstieg in geistige Welten, so müssen wir uns klar darüber sein, daß dieser Zustand eines gewissen Hellsehens sich für die Menschheit wiederholen wird. Wir haben zwischen dieser atlantischen Zeit und derjenigen, die nach dem Kriege aller gegen alle liegen wird, unseren Zeitraum, den wir ja beschrieben haben. In einer gewissen Weise wird sich nach unserem Zeitraum dasjenige, was vorher war, was in der atlantischen Zeit war, wiederholen, nur mit einem gewaltig großen Unterschied. Damals in der alten atlantischen Zeit hatte der Mensch ein traumhaftes, dämmerhaftes hellseherisches Bewußtsein, und wenn er hinaufstieg in höhere Welten, versank sein helles Selbstbewußtsein; dann fühlte er sich wie in der Gruppenseele darinnen. Nach dem großen Kriege aller gegen alle wird der Mensch wiederum in gewisser Art hineinsehen in die höhere Welt. Das, was er dazumal hatte als dämmerhaftes Hellsehen, wird er wieder haben nach dem großen Kriege, aber er wird zu diesem Hellsehen hinzugefügt haben, was er sich jetzt in der äußeren physischen Welt nach und nach erworben hat.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":192,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104/1908-06-24/p004"},{"locus":"GA 104/1908-06-24/p005","passage_number":5,"text":"Der Mensch hat zwischen der atlantischen Flut und dem großen Krieg aller gegen alle eine Zeitlang verzichten müssen auf das Hineinschauen in die geistigen Welten. Er hat sich begnügen müssen damit, nur dasjenige zu sehen, was im sogenannten Tag-Wachbewußtsein für ihn zu sehen ist, was um ihn in der physischen Welt ist. Das ist jetzt der Normalzustand. Dafür aber ist dem Menschen möglich geworden, in dieser Zeit sein Selbstbewußtsein, sein individuelles Ich voll zu entwickeln, sich sozusagen innerhalb seiner Haut als eine abgeschlossene Ich-Persönlichkeit zu fühlen. Das hat er sich erobert. Nun behält er diese Individualität, auch wenn er wieder hinaufsteigt in höhere geistige Welten, und dieses Hinaufsteigen wird ihm möglich sein nach dem großen Kriege aller gegen alle. Aber es würde ihm dieses Hinaufsteigen nicht möglich sein, wenn er nicht in der Mitte unseres in der physischen Welt ablaufenden Zeitraumes teilhaftig geworden wäre jenes großen kosmischen Ereignisses, das wir gestern vor unsere Seele hingestellt haben. Der Mensch hätte in eine Art Abgrund hinuntersinken müssen, wenn er nicht bewahrt worden wäre vor diesem Hinuntersinken durch das Hereintreten des Christus in unsere Welt. 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