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Glauben konnte er an den Christus, der in den physischen Menschen herabgestiegen ist. Aber Glauben und Wissen hatten sich damals schon ganz und gar gespalten. Alle Gläubigen, die auf der mittelalterlichen Wissenschaft fußten, wollten Glauben und Wissenschaft ganz und gar getrennt haben. Schematisch können wir uns das klarmachen, wie das, was sich von der griechisch-lateinischen Zeit fortsetzt, nur auf das äußere Physische geht. Die Menschheitsentwickelung geht dabei so, daß wir jetzt wieder das Wissen erleben, das gepflegt wurde im chaldäisch-ägyptischen Zeitraum, nur durchleuchtet und durchgeistigt von dem Christus-Impuls. Da sehen wir überall in Europa alte ägyptische Weistümer auftauchen, aber durchleuchtet vom Christus-Prinzip. In unserer Zeit wird der Mensch nur immer bewußt und bewußter dies in sich aufnehmen können durch die rosenkreuzerische Lehre.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":228,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/104a/1909-05-14/p010"}],"english":["GA 104a/1909-05-14/p009","GA 104a/1909-05-14/p010"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":228,"en_words":244,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.14,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":2149,"original_word_count":1882,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"James H. 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