{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 106/1908-09-05/p020","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The pupil saw this—not only saw it, but heard it—when he raised himself into Devachan, into the Devachanic world, for this is a world of tones. There he heard the harmony of the spheres, of the seven planets. In the astral world he saw the *picture*; in the Devachanic world he heard the *tone*; and in the highest world he experienced the *word*. When the Indian pupil raised himself into upper Devachan he perceived through the music of the spheres and through the word of the spheres how the primordial spirit, Brahma, is divided through evolution into the seven-fold planetary chain. He heard this out of the primal word *Vach*. This was the designation of the primal tone of creation that the pupil heard. In it he heard the entire world-evolution. The word, split into seven members, the primal word of creation, worked in the soul of the pupil; this was the primal word, which he described to the uninitiated approximately as we today would describe our world evolution. What he perceived is described in an elementary way in my book, *Theosophy, An Introduction to the Supersensible Knowledge*. The description we find again in the ancient sacred tradition of the Indians, in what was called the *Veda*,[^3] or the Word. This is the true meaning of the Vedas, and what was later written down is only a last memory of the ancient sacred doctrine of the Word. The Word itself was only passed from mouth to mouth, for an ancient tradition is impaired by being written down. Only in the Vedas can one feel something of what flowed into this culture at that time. When the pupil experienced this in his memory, he could say to himself, “What I experience in my soul as Brahman, what I have in my soul as primal Word, this was already present on ancient Saturn; on Saturn resounded the first breath of the Veda-word.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Fourth Lecture","site_heading":"Primeval Human Form and Cosmic Initiation Mysteries","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Das war die Bezeichnung des Urtones der Schöpfung, den der Schüler hörte; darinnen hörte er die ganze Weltenentwickelung. Das in sieben Glieder gespaltene Wort, das Urwort der Schöpfung, das wirkte in der Seele des Schülers, das Urwort, das er den Nichteingeweihten ungefähr so beschrieb, wie wir heute beschreiben würden unsere Weltenevolution. Was er wahrnahm, ist elementar beschrieben in meiner «Theosophie», ‚Und diese Beschreibung finden wir zuerst wieder in. der uralt heiligen Religion der Inder, in dem, was man nannte den «Veda» oder auf deutsch das «Wort».","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":197,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/106/1908-09-05/p017"},{"locus":"GA 106/1908-09-05/p018","passage_number":18,"text":"Das ist der wirkliche Sinn der Veden, und dasjenige, was später geschrieben ist, ist nur die letzte Erinnerung an die uralt heilige Wortlehre. 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