{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 106/1908-09-12/p006","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In order to understand how life in kamaloka differs from life in Devachan, let us consider two examples. We know that as soon as he has died, man does not lose his cravings and desires. Let us assume that during his life a person was a gourmet, taking great pleasure in choice, food. When he dies, he does not at once lose this desire for enjoyment, this craving for dainties. These wishes do not live in the physical body, but in the astral. Therefore, since man retains his astral body after death, he also retains the craving, but he lacks the organ with which to satisfy this craving, the physical body. The craving for food depends on the astral body rather than on the physical, and after death the person feels a real lust for what pleased him most in life. For this reason he suffers after death until he has weaned himself of the desire for enjoyment, until he has sloughed off all the cravings that he had cultivated through the physical organs. Throughout this period he remains in kamaloka. Then begins the time when he no longer makes demands of the type that can be satisfied only through physical organs. Then he enters into Devachan.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Tenth Lecture","site_heading":"Initiation, Christ, and Humanity's Spiritual Redemption","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wir brauchen uns nur zu erinnern, daß der Mensch im 'Tode übergeht in den Bewußtseinszustand, den wir Kamaloka nennen, in dem der Mensch, wenn er auch ein geistiges Wesen geworden ist, festgehalten wird durch den astralischen Leib. Es ist das die Zeit, wo der Mensch noch etwas verlangt von der physischen Welt, wo er leidet darunter, wo er etwas entbehrt dadurch, daß er nicht mehr in der physischen Welt ist. Dann kommt die Zeit, in welcher der Mensch sich vorzubereiten hat auf ein neues Leben: der Bewußtseinszustand des Devachan, wo der Mensch nicht mehr unmittelbar mit der physischen Welt, mit dem, was physische Eindrücke sind, zusammenhängt. Wollen wir uns vorstellen, wie sich das Kamalokaleben von dem Devachanleben unterscheidet, so können wir zwei Beispiele betrachten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":149,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/106/1908-09-12/p005"},{"locus":"GA 106/1908-09-12/p006","passage_number":6,"text":"Wir wissen, daß der Mensch, wenn er gestorben ist, nicht gleich mit seinem Sterben seine Begierden und Wünsche verliert. Nehmen wir an, der Mensch ist im Leben ein Feinschmecker gewesen, der einen großen Genuß empfunden hat an leckeren Speisen. Wenn er gestorben ist, verliert sich nicht sogleich diese Genußsucht, dieser Wunsch nach leckeren Speisen. Der Mensch hat ja diese Wünsche nicht in dem physischen Leibe, sondern im Astralleib. Daher, weil der Mensch nach dem Tode den Astralleib behält, behält er auch den Wunsch, aber ihm fehlt das Organ, um diese Wünsche zu befriedigen: der physische Leib. Der Wunsch nach der Speise hängt nicht ab vom physischen Leib, sondern vom Astralleib, und da tritt nach dem Tode eine wahre Gier auf im Menschen nach demjenigen, was ihn im Leben am meisten befriedigte. Daher leidet der Mensch nach dem Tode so lange, bis er sich den Wunsch nach dem Genuß abgewöhnt hat, bis er abgeworfen hat alles, was er durch die physischen Organe an Begierden großgezogen hat. So lange befindet sich der Mensch im Kamaloka. Dann beginnt die Zeit, wo der Mensch nicht mehr Ansprüche dieser Art erhebt, die nur durch physische Organe befriedigt werden können. Dann geht er ein ins Devachan.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":200,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/106/1908-09-12/p006"}],"english":["GA 106/1908-09-12/p005","GA 106/1908-09-12/p006"],"method":"reader","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":407,"en_words":381,"ratio":0.94,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["reader"],"reader_german":["GA 106/1908-09-12/p005","GA 106/1908-09-12/p006"],"reader_part":true},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.0,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5907,"original_word_count":5918,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Norman MacBeth","identified_edition":"AP1971","book_title":"Egyptian Myths and Mysteries","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA106/English/AP1971/19080912p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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