{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 107/1909-01-01/p038","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"You may remember something of what was said at the end of the lecture on the interior of the earth about the possibility of earthquakes. We will not consider that now but enter directly into this question. In reality it has two sides. The one is: Whether from the occult connections which can be discerned, earthquakes can be foreseen? The answer to this is that the knowledge of such matters belongs to the deepest realm of occult science. In respect of a particular event on the earth, an event with roots as deeply laid as those described to-day, and connected with causes extending widely over the earth—in respect of such an event it is absolutely correct to say that even in a particular case an indication of time can be given. It would certainly be possible for the occultist to give such an indication. But the other side of the question is: whether it is *permissible* for such indications to be given?—For one who confronts the occult secrets from outside it will seem almost a matter of course that the answer will be “Yes!” And yet the truth is that in regard to such events it is actually only twice or three times in any one century—at the very most, twice or three times—that any prediction can be announced from the centers of Initiation. For you must remember that these things are connected with the karma of humanity as a whole and if, for example, they were avoided in one instance they would inevitably occur in some other place and in a different form. The prediction itself would alter nothing. And just think what a terrible encroachment it would be into the karma of the earth as a whole if human measures were adopted to prevent such happenings. The reaction would be so fearful, so violent, that only in very rare and exceptional cases would a high Initiate, foreseeing an earthquake, be able to make use of his knowledge to help himself or those near him. *With full knowledge* he would have to face his end, as a matter of course! For these things that have been implicit in the karma of humanity for thousands and millions of years cannot be paralyzed by measures adopted during one brief period of evolution.—But there is still more to add.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"II. Mephistopheles and Earthquakes","site_heading":null,"date":"1909-01-01","location":null,"word_count":387,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/107/1909-01-01/p038","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Dorothy S. 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Für ein einzelnes auf der Erde eingetretenes Ereignis, das im wesentlichen aus einem so tiefen Grunde heraus eintritt, wie es heute geschildert worden ist, das zusammenhängt mit weit über die Erde sich hinziehenden Ursachen, für ein solches Ereignis ist es im Grunde durchaus richtig, daß auch für solche einzelnen Dinge eine Zeitangabe gemacht werden kann. Der Okkultist hätte durchaus die Möglichkeit, eine solche Zeitangabe zu machen. Nun aber ist die andere Frage diese: Ob solche Angaben gemacht werden können, gemacht werden dürfen? Da wird es in der Tat für den, der den okkulten Geheimnissen äußerlich gegenübersteht, fast selbstverständlich klingen, daß das in einer gewissen Beziehung mit Ja beantwortet werden könnte. Und dennoch, die Sache liegt so, daß in bezug auf solche Ereignisse eigentlich im Grunde genommen nur zwei- bis dreimal in jedem Jahrhundert - im Höchstfalle zwei- bis dreimal - aus den Einweihungsstätten heraus etwas vorhergesagt werden kann. Denn Sie müssen bedenken, daß diese Dinge eben mit dem Menschheitskarma zusammenhängen und daß diese Dinge, wenn sie zum Beispiel auch im einzelnen vermieden würden, dann an einer anderen Stelle in einer anderen Erscheinung hervortreten müßten. Durch das Vorhersagen würde sich an der Tatsache nichts ändern. Und bedenken Sie, in welch furchtbarer Weise in das Karma der ganzen Erde eingegriffen würde, wenn menschliche Maßnahmen getroffen würden gegenüber solchen Ereignissen! In einer furchtbaren Weise würde die Reaktion eintreten, und zwar würde sie so stark eintreten, daß nur in seltenen Ausnahmefällen einer, der ein tiefer Eingeweihter wäre, für sich selbst oder für die, die ihm am nächsten stehen, wenn er eine Erdbebenkatastrophe voraussehen würde, von seinem Wissen einen Gebrauch machen könnte. Wissend würde er untergehen müssen, ganz selbstverständlich. Denn diese Dinge, die durch die Jahrtausende und Jahrmillionen im Menschheitskarma liegen, lassen sich nicht durch Maßnahmen, die innerhalb einer kurzen Menschheitsperiode fallen, paralysieren. Aber es kommt noch etwas anderes hinzu.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":410,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/107/1909-01-01/p034"}],"english":["GA 107/1909-01-01/p038"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":410,"en_words":387,"ratio":0.94,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.95,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7750,"original_word_count":8170,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy S. 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