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Spiritual research is to be re-founded on pure, sensuality-free thinking, as it has been lived and expressed, for example, in the Rosicrucian schools. In earlier times of human development, people were initiated into the deeper secrets of existence by initiates. Now they must train themselves to gradually work out these things for themselves. In the meantime, it was important to maintain the connection with the divine world. In order for Christianity to mature calmly, the knowledge of the supersensible had to be withdrawn from human research for a certain period of time. People should learn to believe, even without knowing. Therefore, for a time, Christianity relied on mere belief. People were to let the idea mature quietly. Hence we have the coexistence of faith and knowledge in scholasticism. In scholasticism, the concept only wants to provide a firm support for what, with regard to supersensible objects, should be left for a certain period to what has been imparted to it through revelation. This is the standpoint of scholasticism: to keep the things of revelation aloof from criticism until man's thinking has matured. The foster-father who gave thinking its technique was Aristotle. But this thinking should first be trained on firm points of support in outer reality.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"10. 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Diese Art wurde - der Möglichkeit nach - bereits erlangt im neunzehnten Jahrhundert bei Geistern wie Fichte, Schelling, Hegel. Und wir haben sie weiter auszubilden in den intimeren Gebieten durch die Geisteswissenschaft. Die geistige Forschung ist wieder zu fundieren auf dem reinen, sinnlichkeitsbefreiten Denken, wie es zum Beispiel in den Rosenkreuzerschulen gelebt und seinen Ausdruck gefunden hat. In früheren Zeiten der Menschheitsentwickelung sind die Menschen durch Eingeweihte mit den tieferen Geheimnissen des Daseins vertraut gemacht worden. Jetzt müssen sie sich dazu ausbilden, sich diese Dinge allmählich selbst zu erarbeiten. In der Zwischenzeit handelte es sich darum, den Zusammenhang mit der göttlichen Welt zu erhalten. Damit das Christentum ruhig reifen konnte, mußte die Erkenntnis des Übersinnlichen eine gewisse Zeit der menschlichen Forschung entzogen werden. Die Menschen sollten einmal glauben lernen, auch ohne zu wissen. Daher stützte sich das Christentum eine Zeitlang auf den bloßen Glauben. Die Menschen sollten den Gedanken ruhig reifen lassen. Daher haben Sie das Zusammengehen von Glauben und Wissen in der Scholastik. In der Scholastik will der Begriff nur eine feste Stütze abgeben für das, was in bezug auf die übersinnlichen Gegenstände sich für eine gewisse Zeit dem überlassen sollte, was ihm durch die Offenbarung zuteil geworden ist. Das ist der Standpunkt der Scholastik: Dinge der Offenbarung der Kritik zu entrücken, bis des Menschen Denken herangereift ist. Der Nährvater, der dem Denken die Technik gegeben hat, war ja Aristoteles. Aber dieses Denken sollte zunächst geschult werden an festen Stützpunkten der äußeren Realität.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":331,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/108/1908-03-14/p044"}],"english":["GA 108/1908-03-14/p044"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":331,"en_words":328,"ratio":0.99,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","anchors","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.99,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6390,"original_word_count":6423,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Answers Provided by Anthroposophy Concerning the World and Life","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA108/English/SOL2024/19080314p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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