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Because if my speech is true, then you must give it to me according to our agreement; but if it is false, then the opposite must be true. You will give me back my child. The same applies to the conclusion that affected a teacher and a student. The teacher has taught the pupil the art of jurisprudence. The pupil is to pay the last half of the fee only after he has won his first case. After the teaching is completed, the pupil delays the beginning of the practice of law and therefore also the payment. Finally, the teacher sues him, saying to him: “Foolish youth! In any case, you must now pay. For if I win the lawsuit, you must pay according to the judgment; if you win, you must pay according to the contract, for you have won your first lawsuit. But the student: Wise teacher! Under no circumstances do I have to pay. For if the judges rule in my favor, I have nothing to pay according to the judgment; but if they rule against me, I pay nothing according to our contract.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"12. Formal Logic I","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-10-20","location":null,"word_count":323,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/108/1908-10-20/p025","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Answers Provided by Anthroposophy Concerning the World and Life","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA108/English/SOL2024/19081020p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Ist sie aber falsch, so gebe ich es nicht zurück laut unserer Übereinkunft. - Die Mutter: Ich mag wahr oder falsch gesprochen haben, so mußt du mir mein Kind wiedergeben. Denn ist meine Rede wahr, so mußt du mir es geben laut unserer Übereinkunft; ist sie aber falsch, so muß das Gegenteil wahr sein. Du wirst mir mein Kind zurückgeben. Ebenso ist es mit dem Schluß, der einen Lehrer und einen Schüler betroffen hat. Der Lehrer hat den Schüler die Rechtswissenschaft gelehrt. Der Schüler soll die letzte Hälfte des Honorars erst zahlen, wenn er seinen ersten Prozeß gewonnen hat. Nach vollendetem Unterricht zögert der Schüler mit dem Beginn der Rechtspraxis und darum auch mit der Bezahlung. Endlich verklagt ihn der Lehrer und sagt dabei zu ihm: Törichter Jüngling! Auf jeden Fall mußt du jetzt zahlen. Denn gewinne ich den Prözeß, so mußt du zahlen laut richterlicher Erkenntnis; gewinnst du, so mußt du zahlen laut Vertrag, denn du hast deinen ersten Rechtsstreit gewonnen. - Der Schüler aber: Weiser Lehrer! Auf keinen Fall brauche ich zu bezahlen. Denn sprechen die Richter für mich, so habe ich nichts zu zahlen gemäß richterlicher Erkenntnis; entscheiden sie aber gegen mich, so bezahle ich nichts laut unserem Vertrag.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":295,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/108/1908-10-20/p025"}],"english":["GA 108/1908-10-20/p025"],"method":"identity","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":295,"en_words":323,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":3563,"original_word_count":3476,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Answers Provided by Anthroposophy Concerning the World and Life","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA108/English/SOL2024/19081020p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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