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This was expressed in the legend by saying: Osiris is a king who has never been seen on the Earth! The ‘chest’ is nothing else than the physical body. The moment Osiris is laid in the physical body, the inimical forces of the physical world, forces that are not yet ready to receive the God, assert themselves with such strength that they bring the God to destruction. The physical world is not ready yet to receive the God with whom man must be united. ‘But’—so spake those who could bear personal witness that Osiris lives—‘although we say to you that the God lives in very truth, it is only the Initiate who can behold him, when he (the Initiate) is away from the physical world. The God with whom man must become one in his inmost being, lives, but he lives in the spiritual world. He alone who leaves the physical world can be united with the God!’","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. 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Dann konnte derjenige, der das geschaut hatte, der den Osiris schon bei Lebzeiten geschaut hatte, den anderen verkündigen, daß der Osiris lebt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":124,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/108/1908-12-22/p027"},{"locus":"GA 108/1908-12-22/p028","passage_number":28,"text":"Aber niemals hat man im alten Ägypten verkünden können: Der Osiris lebt unter uns! - Man hat das gerade in der Sage dadurch ausgedrückt, daß man sagte: Osiris ist ein König, der niemals auf der Erde gesehen worden ist. - Denn der «Kasten» ist nichts anderes als der physische Leib. In dem Augenblicke, wo der Osiris in den physischen Leib gelegt wird, machen sich die feindlichen Kräfte der physischen Welt, die noch nicht reif ist, den Gott in sich aufzunehmen, so stark geltend, daß sie den Gott verderben. Die physische Welt ist noch nicht reif, den Gott, mit dem der Mensch eins werden soll, aufzunehmen. 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