{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 108/1908-12-26/p047","lang":"en","edition":"PoeTales","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":false,"text":"Any thoughtful person who travels about can even now find the last remnants of atavistic clairvoyance. Somewhere or other he may meet someone who relates what he has seen in the astral world as his own personal experience. Such a person in traveling about the world will hear fairy tales told by those who still possess a presentiment of the real truth. In this way they have been inscribed in our literature, and thus did the brothers Grimm collect their fairy tales; in like manner others have collected them, who were usually not clairvoyant themselves, but got them at second, third, or even tenth hand, so that they encountered them in a very mutilated form. But the time when people were still in such close touch with the spiritual world is approaching its twilight. Human beings are withdrawing more and more from the spiritual world. Atavistic clairvoyance is becoming rarer and rarer, at least, what may be called healthy clairvoyance, and true clairvoyance tends more and more to be attainable only through training, so that in the time to come most people who know anything of the matter will say about what people saw in ancient times: “Once upon a time old people related this or that from their astral experiences. Where was it then? It could have been everywhere.”","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"II. The Interpretation of Fairy Tales","site_heading":null,"date":"1908-12-26","location":null,"word_count":220,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/108/1908-12-26/p047?edition=PoeTales","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Ruth Pusch","identified_edition":null,"book_title":"The Poetry and Meaning of Fairy Tales","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/PoeTales/19081226p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English","PoeTales"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"en","edition":"PoeTales","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":false,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/108/1908-12-26/p047?edition=PoeTales","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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So haben sie andere gesammelt, die meist selbst nicht Hellseher waren, sondern die Märchen aus dritter, vierter, fünfter Hand bekamen, ja manchmal auch erst aus zehnter Hand, so daß sie ihnen in einer mannigfaltig entstellten Gestalt entgegentraten. Aber es neigte sich die Zeit der Abenddämmerung, wo die Menschen noch ihren intimen Zusammenhang mit der geistigen Welt hatten, der jetzt eben charakterisiert worden ist. Immer mehr und mehr treten die Menschen von dieser geistigen Welt zurück. Das atavistische Hellsehen wird immer seltener und seltener werden, wenigstens das als gesund zu bezeichnende, und wahres Hellsehen wird immer mehr und mehr das bloß durch Schulung dem Menschen zuteil gewordene sein können. Und von dem, was die Menschen in alten Zeiten gesehen haben, werden die meisten Menschen, die noch etwas wissen von den Dingen, in einer gewissen Zukunft sagen können: Es war einmal, daß alte Leute aus ihren astralischen Erlebnissen heraus dieses oder jenes erzählten. Wo war es doch? Es kann eigentlich überall gewesen sein. - Aber heute findet man nur noch sehr selten irgend jemanden, der das aus einer wirklichen Quelle heraus erzählen wird. Und man wird von den Märchenerlebnissen sagen können: Sie ereigneten sich einmal - und wenn sie nicht gestorben sind, diese Märchenerlebnisse, so leben sie heute noch. 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