{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 110/1909-04-14/p015","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Now we must for once come to an understanding with the extraordinary fantastic modern theory of the origin of the world, and turn our minds again to the Kant-Laplace theory. It has put a mass of fog as a starting point for our solar system, and then has imagined that the whole of this giant mass of gas has begun to revolve. It finds it extraordinarily simple that with the rotation the outer planets gradually split off. At first there are rings. These then contract. The Sun remains in the middle, and the others rotate around it. They picture it quite mechanically. A very nice experiment is shown in the schools to make the thing clearer. It is shown how a solar system is formed in a small way, by taking a vessel full of water, throwing in a large drop of oil, then cutting a piece of paper, representing the equator, and putting a pin into it from above. Then the drop of oil is set into rotation. Small drops of oil split asunder and circle round, and the demonstrator shows it to pupils — sometimes quite old pupils — saying: ‘Now, you have here in small the formation of a world system.’ And the whole thing is made most illuminating. For what can illuminate one more than when one sees with one's own eyes how such a solar system is formed. Why should one not see that there was once upon a time a gigantic cosmic fog which in its rotation loosened the Planets around it, like those little drops, and made the miniature Mercury and Saturn loosen themselves from the large drop of oil. One must marvel at such a naive proceeding. For the man who tries to make the Kant-Laplace System so clear forgets one thing — sometimes it is very good to forget, only in this case it wont do — he forgets himself, he forgets he stood by and made the thing rotate. This is incredibly naive, but the simple-mindedness of modern, materialistic mythology is very great, greater than that of any other mythology. This will be realised in future times. There is someone who starts the whole thing, who makes it rotate. It is necessary if one can think at all, if one has not been forsaken by all the good Spirits of Logic, it is necessary to presume that spiritual powers are occupied out there with the rotation of the universal globes. Apart from the error in placing a primeval gas instead of a primeval fire at the outset, one cannot assume that that mass of gas began to whirl round of itself. One must ask: Where are the forces and powers which put movement into that mass which for us is of primeval fire, so that something begins to happen inside it? We have just enumerated them.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture V","site_heading":"Cosmic Evolution Through Spiritual Hierarchies and Planetary Formation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Nun, nicht wahr, es wird ein sehr niedliches Schulexperiment zur Verdeutlichung dieser Sache gemacht. Man zeigt, wie im kleinen ein solches Sonnensystem gebildet wird. Man nimmt ein Gefäß mit Wasser, nimmt einen großen Öltropfen, dann schneidet man, so daß man die Größe des Äquators ins Auge faßt, ein Kartenblatt, steckt es in der Äquatorrichtung durch und von oben eine Stecknadel hinein. Dann bringt man diesen Öltropfen zur Rotation. Es spalten sich kleine Tröpfchen ab und kreisen herum, und da sagt derjenige, der das den Schülern vorgeführt hat, manchmal recht alten Schülern: Nun seht einmal, da habt ihr die Entstehung eines Weltensystems im kleinen! — Und es leuchtet das sofort ein. Denn was sollte mehr einleuchten, als wenn man mit seinen Augen sieht, wie ein solches Sonnensystem entsteht? Warum sollte man nicht begreifen, daß da draußen einmal ein Riesenweltennebel war und sich gedreht hat und daß sich Planeten abgetrennt haben wie die Tröpfchen, die Miniatur-Merkure und -Saturne von dem großen Öltropfen? Man muß allerdings ein wenig über die Naivität, mit der da vorgegangen wird, staunen. Denn die Betreffenden, die also das Kant-Laplacesche System recht begreiflich zu machen versuchen, die vergessen dabei nur eins, was sonst ja ganz gut ist zu vergessen, aber in diesem Falle geht es halt nicht - sie vergessen nämlich sich selbst, sie vergessen, daß sie dagestanden und erstgedreht haben. Das ist natürlich eine unglaubliche Naivität, aber die Naivität der modernen matersalistischen Mythologie ist eben sehr groß, größer als die irgendeiner anderen Mythologie war. Das werden erst zukünftige Zeiten einsehen. Also, es ist da einer, der veranstaltet das Ganze, der dreht das Ganze. Es muß also notwendig, wenn man überhaupt denken kann, wenn man nicht verlassen ist von allen guten Geistern der Logik, vorausgesetzt werden, daß geistige Mächte beteiligt sind da draußen bei der Drehung der Weltenkörper. Wenn man also schon absehen will von dem Fehler, daß ein Urgas an die Stelle des Urfeuers gesetzt wird, so darf man doch nicht voraussetzen, daß diese Gasmasse von selber anfängt herumzuwirbeln. Man muß fragen: Wo sind die geistigen Kräfte und Mächte, die diese Masse, also für uns die Masse des Urfeuers, in Bewegung versetzen, so daß drinnen etwas geschieht? Wir haben sie jetzt aufgezählt: Aus der Umgebung und im Innern arbeiten die geistigen Kräfte. Die da ringsherum sind, die Wesenheiten, die ihre Fähigkeiten erworben haben in früheren Systemen, die arbeiten von außen; da drinnen sind Wesenheiten von geringerer Reife, die nun im Innern die Masse differenzieren, die das hervorbringen, was wir im Auge hatten, als wir sagten, daß da drinnen Gebilde von Wärme entstehen und so weiter. 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