{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 110/1909-04-18/p003","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"It is only natural that after such an exposition as that of yesterday, numerous questions should arise, and that with regard to representation of such universal all-embracing truths about the Cosmos, heard for the first time, some things should remain incomprehensible. I beg you always to remember that — I have already said that here things explained are not the result of any speculation, or of any sort of artificial scheme, but are derived from real facts, which are called the facts of the Akashic Record; and it is only later that these facts can be gathered together into a sort of system. But one question which may arise in many minds must be answered to-day: the question as to the planets which have accomplished their task. In a certain way we traced yesterday the origin of the life of a planet up to its end, up to the time when it became a separate, visible, planet. Now someone might affirm that some of these planets we see in the heavens did not originate from the time described yesterday, or are not now coming into being. We must clearly realise that a new epoch begins for a planet when it has reached that point which we described yesterday. Let us suppose we wished to follow the origin of a planet, not as it was with ancient Saturn when it alone was there, but as it was when the formation of our Earth took place. Ancient Saturn was then formed again, as a repetition; so that after the evolution of ancient Saturn, when ancient Sun and ancient Moon were all three finished, the evolution of the earth first began in the form of a huge warmth or fire-body, on which was repeated all that had happened during the ancient Saturn evolution. Then came a time when, under the influence of the Zodiacal region called the Lion, the single planet Saturn (that which we call Saturn to-day) detached itself from that mighty self-revolving globe of fire, thus reaching its highest point. It was in this manner that the single planet Saturn originated.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture IX","site_heading":"Cosmic Man and Planetary Evolution: Zodiac Forces","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Eine der Fragen aber, die sich ergeben könnten für manchen, soll doch heute hier vorweggenommen werden, die Frage: Wie verhält es sich denn nun mit dem fertigen Planeten? Wir haben ja gestern in einer gewissen Beziehung das Werden des Planeten bis zu seinem Abschluß verfolgt, bis zu dem Zeitpunkt, wo er sozusagen da ist als einzelner sichtbarer Planet. Und nun könnte jemand sagen: Ja, aber die Planeten, die wir jetzt am Himmel sehen, sind doch alle nicht etwa vor diesem Zeitpunkt, der gestern geschildert worden ist, entstanden, sie sind doch nicht etwa im Entstehen?","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":187,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/110/1909-04-18/p003"},{"locus":"GA 110/1909-04-18/p004","passage_number":4,"text":"Das ist auch nicht der Fall. Wir müssen uns klar sein darüber, daß für den Planeten dann eigentlich eine neue Zeitepoche eintritt, wenn jener Punkt erreicht ist, von dem ich gestern gesprochen habe. Nehmen Sie einmal an, wir wollten die Planetenentstehung verfolgen, nicht wie sie vor sich ging beim alten Saturn, wo ja nur dieser alte Saturn da war, sondern wie sie vor sich ging bei der Erdenbildung. Da hat sich ja auch zuerst der alte Saturn als Wiederholung wieder gebildet, so daß nach dem Ablauf von Saturnentwickelung, Sonnenentwickelung, Mondenentwickelung, beim Beginn der Erdenentwikkelung sich wiederum zunächst herausbildete ein mächtiger Wärmeoder Feuerkörper und daß da entstand alles dasjenige, was ich Ihnen gegenüber der Saturnentwickelung gesagt habe. Da trat dann auch der Zeitpunkt ein, wo in einem Punkte dieser sich um sich selbst bewegenden mächtigen Feuerkugel durch die Einflüsse der Tierkreisregion des Löwen sich dieser einzelne Saturn, was wir heute Saturn nennen, abgliederte, wo er sozusagen in dieser Abgliederung seinen Höhepunkt erreichte. 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