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Even if we only find a few traces we nevertheless perceive something of the quite different character of feeling and thinking, of the quite different attitude to wisdom and life existing at that time, when the Ego-consciousness did not exist in human feeling in such an awakened form. What was written clown in the Vedas was the teaching of the great teachers of ancient India, the holy Rishis, and when we state that the holy Rishis were inspired by the high individuality who guided the peoples of old Atlantis through the Europe of today over into Asia, we are only recording a fact. In a certain way the holy Rishis were the pupils of this high individuality, of Manu. And what did Manu communicate to them? Manu communicated to them the way in which they had at that time attained to the first post-Atlantean wisdom, knowledge and cognition. 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The Nature of the Luciferic Influence in History","site_heading":null,"date":"1909-08-30","location":null,"word_count":307,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/113/1909-08-30/p013","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"RSPC1940","book_title":"The East in the Light of the West","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA113/English/RSPC1940/19090830p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wiederum soll am Schlusse unserer nachatlantischen Zeit in einer gewissen Weise der Mensch, wenn er den Weg hinausgeht in die äußere Sinnenwelt und das Geoffenbarte hineinarbeitet in die eigene Seelenwelt, erkennen, daß ihn diese beiden Wege zu einer Einheit führen. Deshalb ist es gut, wenn man sich ein wenig hineinversetzt in dieses für heutige — wir stehen ja in der Zwischenepoche — Gefühle ziemlich fernliegende altindische Fühlen und Denken. Selbst wenn man nur einige Züge herausgreift, so merkt man etwas von dem ganz anders gearteten Fühlen und Denken, von der ganz andersartigen Stellung zur Weisheit und zum Leben, die dazumal bei einem nicht so zum Ich-Bewußtsein geweckten Menschenwesen vorhanden waren. Dasjenige, was dann in den Veden niedergeschrieben worden ist, das ist die Lehre der ersten großen Lehrer des alten Indien, der heiligen Rishis. Es muß hier auf die Tatsache hingewiesen werden, daß die heiligen Rishis ihre Anregung empfingen von jener hohen Individualität, welche die Völker der alten Atlantis hinübergeführt hat durch das heutige Europa nach Asien hinein. In gewisser Beziehung waren die heiligen Rishis die Schüler dieser hohen Individualität, des Manu. Und was hat ihnen der Manu vermittelt? Vermittelt hat er ihnen die Art und Weise, wie sie dazumal zu der ersten nachatlantischen Weisheit und Erkenntnis gekommen sind. 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