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The Nature of the Luciferic Influence in History","date":"1909-08-30","location":null,"alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"RSPC1940","book_title":"The East in the Light of the West","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA113/English/RSPC1940/19090830p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). 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The spirit who previously had been external now had to enter into the human soul, had to be found within it, even as formerly the Luciferic divinities and Osiris were to be found there. The two paths clearly shown in the contrasts between the Chaldeans and the Egyptians had to make one another fruitful. Such an event was essential. How could it take place? It could only occur after a ‘connecting link’ had been created. This proceeded from Ur of Chaldea, as the Bible truly states. It takes up the revelation coming from without then it passes on into Egypt, absorbs that which comes from within and unites the two, so that for the first time in Jahve we have a being heralding the Christ who unites the two paths. Jahve or Jehovah is a divinity to be found on the inward path, but Jahve is not visible in himself. He only becomes visible when illuminated from without. Jehovah reflects the light of Christ. Here we can clearly see the two paths we have been studying so intensely, running side by side and each fructifying the other. And when this begins, quite a new process becomes apparent in human evolution. The outward an the inward fructify each other; the inward becomes the external and that which formerly lived only inwardly and within time now spreads out into space, so that the two paths continue side by side. Consider your own soul life! It does not spread out in ‘space,’ it runs its course in ‘time.’ Thoughts and feelings follow one another (in ‘time’). That which is outside is spread out in space, in simultaneous co-existence. Accordingly an event had to happen which may be called the outflow into space and co-existence of something which till then had only lived in time. And that event duly took place; something which had hitherto lived only in time became from that epoch onward a co-existing life in space. In this manner occurred a change of profound importance and one to which expression was given in an equally profound manner.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":374,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/113/1909-08-30/p025","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1909-08-30","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 113/1909-08-30/p031","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/113/1909-08-30/p031"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":393,"en_words":374,"ratio":0.95,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Now everything that comes under the laws of time is regulated by the measure and the nature of the number seven. We learn to understand the evolution of the world by basing it upon the number seven and counting, for example, the seven stages of Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth (or Mars-Mercury), Jupiter, Venus and Vulcan. In everything which has to do with time we proceed aright by making use of the number seven. In ‘time’ we are everywhere led to the number seven. All the schools and lodges whose teachings lead out of space into time have seven as a fundamental number when they lead to the super-sensible. This number seven is associated with the holy Rishis, and with the holy teachers of other nations down to the seven wise men of Greece. But the fundamental number of space is twelve, and in flowing into space, time is revealed according to the number twelve. At the point where time flows out into space the number twelve dominates. We have twelve tribes in Israel, also twelve apostles at the moment when Christ, Who had previously revealed Himself in time, poured out into space. What is within time occurs in succession. Hence that which leads out of space into time, to gods of the Luciferic realms, leads into the number seven. If we would characterise anything in this realm according to its essence, we find the being by going back to the ancestry. In order to perceive that which develops itself in time we pass from the later back to the earlier, as from child to father. On going into the world of time, in which the number seven obtains, we speak of children and of their origin, of the children of spiritual beings, of the children of Lucifer; when we lead time out into space we speak of beings existing simultaneously, in whose nature, co-existence and also the flowing of souls, the impulses from one to another in space demand our consideration.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":350,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/113/1909-08-30/p026","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1909-08-30","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 113/1909-08-30/p032","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/113/1909-08-30/p032"}],"bead_confidence":"high","length_check":{"de_words":456,"en_words":465,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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Der Geist, der vorher äußerlich war, sollte nun hineintreten in die menschliche Seele, daß er im Innern zu finden ist; wie früher die luziferischen Gottheiten zu finden waren, wie Osiris im Innern zu finden war. Die beiden Wege, die sich deutlich im Gegensatze bei den Chaldäern und Ägyptern zeigten, sollten sich gegenseitig befruchten. Das mußte geschehen. Wie konnte das geschehen? Es konnte dadurch geschehen, daß ein Bindeglied geschaffen wurde. Dieses Bindeglied geht aus von Ur in Chaldäa, wie richtig die Bibel vom hebräischen Volk erzählt. Da nimmt es jene Offenbarungen mit, die von außen kommen. Dann geht es nach Ägypten, nimmt auf, was von innen kommt, und vereinigt beides, so daß zum erstenmal in Jahve eine Wesenheit voranleuchtend auftritt für Christus, welche die beiden Wege vereinigt. Was frühere Götter waren, das wird jetzt von zwei Seiten her dem Menschen kund. Wie später der Christus innerlich beleuchtet wird, so wird wenigstens von außen beleuchtet dasjenige, was früher als gewisse Götter in der Dunkelheit erscheint. So sehen wir, daß in Jahve oder Jehova eine Gottheit auftritt, die auf dem Wege nach innen gefunden wird, aber noch nicht durch sich selbst sichtbar wird, die nur sichtbar wird, wenn sie von außen beleuchtet wird. Das zurückgeworfene Christus-Licht ist bei Jehova. Da sehen wir deutlich nebeneinandertreten und sich gegenseitig befruchten diese beiden Richtungen, die uns jetzt so viel beschäftigt haben. Damit aber beginnt überhaupt etwas ganz besonders Neues im Entwickelungsgange der Menschheit. Jetzt beginnt, daß sich Äußeres und Inneres befruchten; jetzt beginnt das, wo das Innere zum Äußeren wird, wo in den Raum hinausdringt, um nebeneinander zu sein, dasjenige, was früher nur innerlich in der Zeit gelebt hat. Durchsuchen Sie Ihr Seelenleben einmal. Dieses ist nicht im Raume ausgebreitet, das verläuft in der Zeit. Die einzelnen Gedanken und Empfindungen sind hintereinander. Was draußen ist, das ist im Raume ausgebreitet, das ist nebeneinander. Daher muß jetzt das eintreten, was man nennt: das Hinausfließen von etwas, was bisher nur in der Zeit gelebt hat, in den Raum zum Nebeneinander. Das geschieht auch, daß etwas, was nur in der Zeit gelebt hat, im Raume nunmehr nebeneinanderlebt. Damit geschieht ein Wichtiges, und dieses drückt sich in ganz besonders tiefer Weise aus.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":393,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/113/1909-08-30/p031"},{"locus":"GA 113/1909-08-30/p032","passage_number":32,"text":"Alles dasjenige, was früher menschliche Geistesentwickelung war, was hinausführte über die äußere Raumeswelt, führte auch äußerlich in die Zeit hinein. Nun - alles, was zeitlich angeordnet ist, das ist nach dem Maße und nach der Natur der Siebenzahl angeordnet. Wir beherrschen den Weltenwerdegang, wenn wir die Zahl Sieben zugrunde legen, indem wir sagen: Saturn, Sonne, Mond, Erde- Mars, Merkur — Jupiter, Venus und Vulkan, indem wir zum Beispiel hier sieben Zeiträume haben. In allem, was der Zeit unterliegt, finden wir uns zurecht, wenn wir die Zahl Sieben anwenden. Daher werden wir überall da, wo wir in die Zeit hineingeführt werden, zur Siebenzahl geführt werden. Alle die Kollegien und Logen, welche aus dem Raume hinaus in das Zeitliche hineinführen, wenn sie zum Überweltlichen führen, unterliegen eben der Siebenzahl. Der Siebenzahl unterliegen die heiligen Rishis, der Siebenzahl unterliegen die anderen heiligen Lehrer der Völker bis herein zu den sieben Weisen Griechenlands. Die Grundzahl des Raumes ist die Zwölf. Und indem die Zeit herausfließt in den Raum, wird sie zur Offenbarung durch Zwölf. Daher herrscht die Zwölf da, wo die Zeit ausfließt in den Raum. Zwölf Stämme haben wir in Israel, zwölf Apostel in dem Augenblick, wo der Christus, der sich vorher in der Zeit geoffenbart hatte, herausfließt in den Raum. Was in der Zeit ist, ist hintereinander. Was daher von dem Raume in die Zeit hinführt zu den Göttern des luziferischen Reiches, führt in die Siebenzahl hinein. Wollen wir etwas charakterisieren seiner Wesenheit nach in diesem Reiche, so finden wir diese Wesenheit, wenn wir das zu Erforschende auf seine Vaterschaft zurückführen. Wir erkennen dasjenige, was in der Zeit sich entwickelt, wenn wir von dem Späteren zu dem Früheren wie vom Kind zum Vater aufsteigen. Indem wir in die Zeitenwelt, die von der Siebenzahl beherrscht ist, hineingehen, sprechen wir von den Kindern und ihrem Ursprunge, von den Kindern der geistigen Wesenheiten, von den Kindern des Luzifer. Wenn wir die Zeit herausführen in den Raum, sprechen wir von denjenigen Wesenheiten, die nebeneinanderstehen, bei denen das Stehen nebeneinander und damit auch das Fließen der Seelenimpulse von dem einen zum anderen im Raume in Betracht kommt. Wo die Siebenzahl sich dadurch, daß die Zeit in den Raum herausfließt, in die Zwölf verwandelt, hört auf der Begriff des Kindes denselben übersinnlichen Sinn zu haben; da tritt der Begriff der Bruderschaft auf; die nebeneinander leben, das sind Brüder. So steigen wir auf in der Menschheitsentwickelung, indem wir den wichtigen Begriff der Göttersöhne verwandeln in den Begriff der Brüder, die nebeneinander leben. Brüder, Geschwister leben nebeneinander. Was voneinander abstammt, lebt nacheinander. Wir sehen hier in einem wichtigen Zeitpunkt den Übergang von den Söhnen oder Kindern des luziferischen Reiches und seiner Wesenheit zu den Brüdern Christi, einen Übergang, von dem wir morgen noch weiter sprechen werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":456,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/113/1909-08-30/p032"}],"beads":[{"from":[25],"to":[31],"confidence":"high"},{"from":[26,27,28],"to":[32],"confidence":"high"}],"note":"Paired by the paragraph aligner; each language numbers its own paragraphs. A bead at either end of the span can carry text beyond it (the `from` numbers show what each bead covers)."}}