{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 113/1909-08-30/p026","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"All previous human spiritual evolution in leading out beyond the external world of space led also into external time. Now everything that comes under the laws of time is regulated by the measure and the nature of the number seven. We learn to understand the evolution of the world by basing it upon the number seven and counting, for example, the seven stages of Saturn, Sun, Moon, Earth (or Mars-Mercury), Jupiter, Venus and Vulcan. In everything which has to do with time we proceed aright by making use of the number seven. In ‘time’ we are everywhere led to the number seven. All the schools and lodges whose teachings lead out of space into time have seven as a fundamental number when they lead to the super-sensible. This number seven is associated with the holy Rishis, and with the holy teachers of other nations down to the seven wise men of Greece. But the fundamental number of space is twelve, and in flowing into space, time is revealed according to the number twelve. At the point where time flows out into space the number twelve dominates. We have twelve tribes in Israel, also twelve apostles at the moment when Christ, Who had previously revealed Himself in time, poured out into space. What is within time occurs in succession. Hence that which leads out of space into time, to gods of the Luciferic realms, leads into the number seven. If we would characterise anything in this realm according to its essence, we find the being by going back to the ancestry. In order to perceive that which develops itself in time we pass from the later back to the earlier, as from child to father. On going into the world of time, in which the number seven obtains, we speak of children and of their origin, of the children of spiritual beings, of the children of Lucifer; when we lead time out into space we speak of beings existing simultaneously, in whose nature, co-existence and also the flowing of souls, the impulses from one to another in space demand our consideration.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"8. The Nature of the Luciferic Influence in History","site_heading":null,"date":"1909-08-30","location":null,"word_count":350,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/113/1909-08-30/p026","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"RSPC1940","book_title":"The East in the Light of the West","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA113/English/RSPC1940/19090830p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Alle die Kollegien und Logen, welche aus dem Raume hinaus in das Zeitliche hineinführen, wenn sie zum Überweltlichen führen, unterliegen eben der Siebenzahl. Der Siebenzahl unterliegen die heiligen Rishis, der Siebenzahl unterliegen die anderen heiligen Lehrer der Völker bis herein zu den sieben Weisen Griechenlands. Die Grundzahl des Raumes ist die Zwölf. Und indem die Zeit herausfließt in den Raum, wird sie zur Offenbarung durch Zwölf. Daher herrscht die Zwölf da, wo die Zeit ausfließt in den Raum. Zwölf Stämme haben wir in Israel, zwölf Apostel in dem Augenblick, wo der Christus, der sich vorher in der Zeit geoffenbart hatte, herausfließt in den Raum. Was in der Zeit ist, ist hintereinander. Was daher von dem Raume in die Zeit hinführt zu den Göttern des luziferischen Reiches, führt in die Siebenzahl hinein. Wollen wir etwas charakterisieren seiner Wesenheit nach in diesem Reiche, so finden wir diese Wesenheit, wenn wir das zu Erforschende auf seine Vaterschaft zurückführen. Wir erkennen dasjenige, was in der Zeit sich entwickelt, wenn wir von dem Späteren zu dem Früheren wie vom Kind zum Vater aufsteigen. Indem wir in die Zeitenwelt, die von der Siebenzahl beherrscht ist, hineingehen, sprechen wir von den Kindern und ihrem Ursprunge, von den Kindern der geistigen Wesenheiten, von den Kindern des Luzifer. Wenn wir die Zeit herausführen in den Raum, sprechen wir von denjenigen Wesenheiten, die nebeneinanderstehen, bei denen das Stehen nebeneinander und damit auch das Fließen der Seelenimpulse von dem einen zum anderen im Raume in Betracht kommt. Wo die Siebenzahl sich dadurch, daß die Zeit in den Raum herausfließt, in die Zwölf verwandelt, hört auf der Begriff des Kindes denselben übersinnlichen Sinn zu haben; da tritt der Begriff der Bruderschaft auf; die nebeneinander leben, das sind Brüder. So steigen wir auf in der Menschheitsentwickelung, indem wir den wichtigen Begriff der Göttersöhne verwandeln in den Begriff der Brüder, die nebeneinander leben. Brüder, Geschwister leben nebeneinander. Was voneinander abstammt, lebt nacheinander. Wir sehen hier in einem wichtigen Zeitpunkt den Übergang von den Söhnen oder Kindern des luziferischen Reiches und seiner Wesenheit zu den Brüdern Christi, einen Übergang, von dem wir morgen noch weiter sprechen werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":456,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/113/1909-08-30/p032"}],"english":["GA 113/1909-08-30/p026","GA 113/1909-08-30/p027","GA 113/1909-08-30/p028"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":456,"en_words":465,"ratio":1.02,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","anchors","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 113/1909-08-30/p032"],"reader_part":true},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.01,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8854,"original_word_count":8751,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"RSPC1940","book_title":"The East in the Light of the West","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA113/English/RSPC1940/19090830p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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