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The Akashic Chronicle reveals that the Earth is of immense antiquity and that even the Lemurian epoch was preceded by another. We learn from the book *Occult Science* that the Earth is the re-embodiment of the earlier planetary embodiments of Old Moon, Old Sun and Old Saturn. We learn too that the Earth, in the course of its gradual evolution, was destined to add the Ego, the fourth principle of human nature, to the other three bodies which had been developed during the previous embodiments: the physical body (in rudimentary form) on Old Saturn, the etheric body on Old Sun, the astral body on Old Moon. Everything that preceded the Lemurian epoch was merely preparation for the Earth's mission. During the Lemurian epoch man assumed a form that made it possible for him to develop his fourth principle, the Ego. At that time the first seed began to form for the development of an Ego in the other three principles. Hence we can say that the changes which took place on Earth enabled man to become the *bearer of an Ego*. Before the Lemurian epoch the Earth was also inhabited, but by human beings who as yet bore no Ego within them. They consisted of the principles that had been brought over from their former development during the planetary evolutions of Old Saturn, Old Sun and Old Moon. These human beings consisted of physical body, etheric body, astral body. We know of the processes in the universe which led to the next stage in man's evolution. At the beginning of its present embodiment the Earth was united with Sun and Moon; then the Sun separated off, leaving behind a planetary body comprising the present Earth and Moon. If the Earth had remained united with the Moon, man's whole make-up would have become hard and ligneous, would have shrivelled. In order to avert this it was necessary for all the Moon-substances and beings to be cast out. Thereby the human form was rescued from the danger of hardening and it became possible for man to assume his present structure. It was only after the separation of the Moon that the possibility arose for him to become the bearer of an Ego. This did not, of course, take place all at once. After the Sun had slowly separated and while the Moon was still contained within the Earth, certain conditions arose which prevented the further evolution of mankind; physical matter became increasingly dense and a process of hardening had, in fact, already begun. Human souls—they were then at a lower stage of development—were passing through incarnations, through successive embodiments; in other words, man's in-most being left his outer form and passed through a spiritual world in order then to reappear in a new incarnation. But before the separation of the Moon a difficult period occurred in the evolution of the Earth. Certain human souls who, having left their bodies, were living in the spiritual world, wanted to descend again to the Earth; but the human substance now to be found there was too hard and ligneous to enable them to incarnate. A time came when souls wishing to descend found it impossible to incarnate again because the earthly bodies were unsuitable for them. Only the very strongest souls were able to master the hardened matter sufficiently to incarnate on the Earth; the others were obliged to withdraw again into the spiritual world. There were periods before the separation of the Moon when these conditions prevailed. The number of strong souls able to conquer matter and populate the Earth became steadily less, with the result that prior to the Lemurian epoch there was a period when wide areas of the Earth were barren and the population less and less numerous, because souls desiring to descend could find no suitable bodies.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":722,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/114/1909-09-18/p015","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1909-09-18","de_passages":[],"bead_confidence":"medium","correspondence":"unestablished","note":"NOT ALIGNED. The aligner could not pair this English passage with a German passage. This does NOT mean the German lacks the content — the English edition may merge or reorder what the German numbers separately. Search the German lecture for the passage's key nouns before drawing any conclusion."},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy S. 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Then, by degrees, all the souls returned to the Earth from Mars, Jupiter, Venus, Mercury and Saturn; and through propagation the souls gradually returning to the Earth from the planets constituted the descendants of the first main pair.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":148,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/114/1909-09-18/p017","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1909-09-18","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p022","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p022"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":175,"en_words":148,"ratio":0.85,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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And during the latter part of the Lemurian until far into the Atlantean epoch, an ever-increasing number of souls descended, having waited on the other planets until a time came when they were able to incarnate in earthly bodies. In this way the Earth was re-populated and the Atlantean peoples came into existence, guided by the Atlantean Initiates in the “Oracles”.[^3] \nIn ancient Atlantis there were great sanctuaries where Initiates worked. These sanctuaries were organized in such a way that one might be called the ‘Mars Oracle’, another the ‘Jupiter Oracle’, another the ‘Saturn Oracle’ and so on. The variety of these Oracle-sanctuaries was due to the differences among human beings. For those souls who had waited on Mars, instruction and guidance were provided in the Mars Oracles; for those who had waited on Jupiter, in the Jupiter Oracles, and so on. Only a few chosen pupils could be instructed in the great Sun Oracle. These were the most direct descendants of the main pair who had lived through the Earth's critical period—the strong, ancestral couple called in the Bible ‘Adam and Eve’. There we find something that tallies exactly with the facts revealed by the Akashic Chronicle, so that the Bible is substantiated even where its content seems improbable.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":215,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/114/1909-09-18/p018","german_anchor":{"de_prefix":"1909-09-18","de_passages":[{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p023","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p023"},{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p024","url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p024"}],"bead_confidence":"medium","length_check":{"de_words":260,"en_words":215,"ratio":0.83,"partial":false},"correspondence":"established","note":"English passage numbering is edition-relative, so the same number need not name the same paragraph in the German. 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So gab es gewisse Seelen, die nach dem Saturn entrückt wurden, andere, die nach dem Jupiter, Mars, Venus oder Merkur entrückt wurden; so daß es eine Erdenzeit gab, in welcher nur die stärksten Seelen während des großen Erdenwinters auf die Erde kommen konnten. Die schwächeren Seelen mußten von den anderen zu unserem Sonnensystem gehörenden Planeten in Obhut genommen werden.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":86,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p021"},{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p022","passage_number":22,"text":"Während der lemurischen Epoche gab es in der Tat eine Zeit, von der man - wenigstens annähernd - sagen kann: Es war ein einziges Menschenpaar, ein Hauptpaar vorhanden, welches sich die Stärke behalten hatte, diese widerspenstige Menschensubstanz zu bezwingen und sich auf der Erde zu verkörpern, gleichsam durchzuhalten durch die ganze Erdenzeit. Das war aber auch die Zeit, als sich der Mond von der Erde trennte. Und durch diese Mondentrennung wurde es wieder möglich, daß sich die Menschensubstanz verfeinerte und sich wieder geeignet machte, Menschenseelen aufzunehmen, die schwächer waren, so daß die Nachkommen dieses einen Hauptpaares wieder in der Lage waren, in weicherer Substanz zu sein als diejenigen, welche vor der Mondentrennung gelebt hatten. Da kamen dann nach und nach alle die Seelen, welche nach dem Mars, Jupiter, Venus und so weiter hinauf entrückt waren, wieder auf die Erde zurück, und mit der Vermehrung der Menschen von dem einen Hauptpaare aus geschah das, daß die Seelen nach und nach aus dem Weltenraume auf die Erde zurückkehrten und sich als die Nachkommen des ersten Hauptpaares bildeten.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":175,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p022"},{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p023","passage_number":23,"text":"So bevölkerte sich die Erde wiederum. Und während der letzten lemurischen Zeit bis weit in die atlantische Zeit hinein kamen immer mehr Seelen herunter, die auf den anderen Planeten gewartet hatten, bis es auf der Erde wiederum Zeit sein würde, sich zu verkörpern. Dann stiegen sie wieder herunter in einen Erdenleib. Auf diese Art wurde die Erde wieder bevölkert. Und auf diese Art entstand jene atlantische Bevölkerung, welche geführt wurde von den atlantischen Eingeweihten in den atlantischen Orakeln. Diese atlantischen Orakel habe ich folgendermaßen charakterisiert.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":85,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/114/1909-09-18/p023"},{"locus":"GA 114/1909-09-18/p024","passage_number":24,"text":"Es gab große Führerstätten in der alten Atlantis. Sie waren so eingestellt, daß man die einen nennen konnte die Marsorakel, andere die Jupiterorakel, die Saturnorakel und so weiter. 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