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Then also, one still had in the words the sap of the spiritual, if one may express it thus. You can trace that in the words. If anybody today uses the word “wind,” “air,” then he means something external, physical. The word wind here corresponds to something external, physical. If, *e.g.*, in old Hebrew, the word wind, “Ruach,” was employed, one did not merely mean something external, physical, but a spiritual, which swept through space. When man breathes in today he is told by materialistic science that he simply inhales material air; in ancient times, one did not believe one inhaled material air, but then one was clear that one inspired something of spirit, or at least, of soul. Thus the words then were absolutely designations for spirit and soul. That has ceased today; today speech is limited to the external world, or at least, those who seek to stand at the peak of the age busy themselves seeing only a materialistic meaning, even behind those things where it is still obvious they are derived from soul and spirit. Physics speaks of an “impact” of bodies. It has forgotten that the word “impact” is derived from that which a living being performs out of its inner living nature, when it pushes another being. The original significance of words is forgotten in these simple things.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"I. Group-soulness and Ego-hood.","site_heading":null,"date":"1909-12-04","location":null,"word_count":355,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/117/1909-12-04/p022","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":null,"book_title":"The Ego","publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/The_Ego/19091204p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Plato hatte noch vor sich das Geistige, wenn auch schon destilliert; es war sozusagen noch etwas völlig Reales. Da also hatte man in den Worten noch, wenn man sich so ausdrücken darf, den Saft des Geistigen vorhanden. Das können Sie in den Worten spüren. Wenn jemand heute das Wort «Wind», «Luft» gebraucht, nun, dann meint er etwas Äußeres, Physisches. Das Wort Wind entspricht da einem Äußeren, Physischen. Wenn man zum Beispiel im alten Hebräischen das Wort Wind «Ruach» gebrauchte, so meinte man nicht bloß etwas Äußeres, Physisches, sondern ein Geistiges, das da hinfegte durch den Raum. Wenn der Mensch einatmet — nun, heute sagt ihm die materialistische Wissenschaft, daß er einfach materielle Luft einatmet. 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