{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 119/1910-03-21/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Thus, for us human beings, thought is the last thing we grasp of the things, but it underlies them as their first. The creative thought underlies the things, but the thoughts of men, through which man ultimately recognizes, differ in a certain, very significant respect from the creative thoughts outside. When you try to look into the human soul, you will say to yourself: however this human thinking may roam in the horizon of thoughts and ideas, as long as man thinks, as long as he tries to fathom the secrets of things through his thoughts, they will resemble something that is far removed from all creativity. That is the fateful quality of human thoughts, that they have lost the productive, the creative element that is contained in the thoughts that interweave and live through the world outside. Those thoughts that permeate the outside world are imbued with the element that first sprouts up in the human interior like a mysterious substratum of our existence. You know that your ideas, if they are to be transformed into will, must first be submerged into the depths of human existence, that the thought itself is not yet permeated by the will. But the thought that works outside in the world is permeated and interwoven with will. And that is precisely what is unique about the spirit, which objectively interweaves things outside, that it is creative. But through this it is no longer mere thought, through this it is spirit. The thought of human nature has come about through the will being pressed out of the spirit and this appearing like a reflex first out of man. To the spiritual eye, it is nowhere to be seen outside, separate from the creative.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"The Human Being's Journey Through the World of the Senses, Soul and Spirit","site_heading":null,"date":"1910-03-21","location":null,"word_count":289,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/119/1910-03-21/p025","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:identity","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":null,"publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA119/English/Singles/19100321p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"edition_coverage":{"de":["original"],"en":["English"]},"available_versions":[{"lang":"de","edition":"original","edition_basis":null,"is_original":true,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/119/1910-03-21/p025"},{"lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/119/1910-03-21/p025","paragraph_aligned":true}],"record":{"record_type":"unknown","scope":"volume","note":"How this text was taken down (shorthand transcript, listeners' notes or manuscript) is not on record here. 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Wenn Sie in die menschliche Seele hineinzublicken versuchen, dann werden Sie sich sagen: Wie auch dieses menschliche Denken herumschweifen mag in dem Horizont der Gedanken und Vorstellungen, solange der Mensch denkt, solange er durch seine Gedanken die Geheimnisse der Dinge zu ergründen versucht, so lange nehmen sie sich aus wie etwas, dem ferne liegt alles Schöpferische. - Das ist das Figenartige der menschlichen Gedanken, daß sie das produktive, das schöpferische Element, das in den Gedanken, die die Welt draußen durchweben und durchleben, enthalten ist, verloren haben. Diejenigen Gedanken, die die Welt draußen durchsetzen, werden durchzogen mit dem Element, das im menschlichen Inneren erst heraufsprießßt wie ein geheimnisvoller Untergrund unseres Daseins. Das wissen Sie ja, daß Ihre Vorstellungen, wenn sie umgegossen sein sollen in den Willen, dann untertauchen müssen in die Untergründe des menschlichen Wesens, daß der Gedanke selber noch nicht durchzogen ist von dem Willen. Der Gedanke aber, der draußen in der Welt wirkt, der ist durchzogen und durchwebt vom Willen. Und das eben ist das eigenartige des Geistes, der objektiv draußen die Dinge durchwirkt, daß er schöpferisch ist. Dadurch ist er aber nicht mehr nur Gedanke, dadurch ist er Geist. Der Gedanke der menschlichen Natur ist dadurch zustande gekommen, daß der Wille aus dem Geist herausgepreßt ist und daß dieser wie ein Reflex erst aus dem Menschen heraus erscheint. Für den geistigen Blick zeigt er sich draußen nirgends von dem Schöpferischen getrennt.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":291,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/119/1910-03-21/p025"}],"english":["GA 119/1910-03-21/p025"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":291,"en_words":289,"ratio":0.99,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.03,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8184,"original_word_count":7952,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"Singles","book_title":null,"publisher":null,"publisher_inferred":false,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA119/English/Singles/19100321p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line"},"entity_parity":{"status":"ok","checked_against":["GA 119/1910-03-21/p025"],"missing_from_translation":[],"present_only_in_translation":[],"bead_confidence":"high","note":"Every load-bearing name in the German counterpart appears in this English passage. 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