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If present-day natural science has brought about certain results, it has certainly done so by means of powers which have unfolded and developed out of the souls of men. The human souls who worked in our time were also incarnated in man in the Egyptian-Chaldean age, and at that time they underwent certain experiences without which they would not be able to accomplish what they do to-day. If the pupils of the old Egyptian temple priests had not learned in Egyptian astrology about the relations existing between the heavenly bodies, they would not later on have been able to penetrate into the secrets of the world, nor would certain souls in the present age have possessed the abilities to explore the regions of the heavens. For instance, how did Kepler arrive at his discoveries? He did so because within him there was a soul who in the Egyptian-Chaldean times had acquired the forces necessary for the discoveries which he was to make in the fifth age. It fills us with inner satisfaction to see in certain souls a realisation arising out of the fact that the germs of what they are now doing were laid in the past. Kepler, one of the men who has played a most important part in the investigation of the laws of the universe says of himself, ‘Yes, it is I who have robbed the golden vessels of the Egyptians to make an offering to my God far removed from Egyptian bounds. If you will forgive me, I will rejoice, but if you blame me I must bear it; here I throw the dice and I write this book. What matter if it is read to-day or later—even if centuries must elapse before it is read! God himself had to wait six thousand years for the one who recognised his work.’","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"1. The Nature and Significance of Karma in the Personal and Individual; and in Humanity, the Earth and the Universe","site_heading":null,"date":"1910-05-16","location":null,"word_count":430,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/120/1910-05-16/p028","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Manifestations of Karma","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA120/English/RSP1984/19100516p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Wenn wir diese Epoche vergleichen mit unserer eigenen, dann werden wir erkennen, daß dasjenige, was in unserem eigenen Zeitalter geschieht, zusammenhängt mit dem, was in der ägyptisch-chaldäischen Kulturperiode vor sich gegangen ist. Das griechisch-lateinische Zeitalter steht zwischen beiden darinnen. In unserer Zeit würden gewisse Dinge nicht geschehen, wenn nicht gewisse Dinge in der ägyptisch-chaldäischen Kultur geschehen wären. Wenn die gegenwärtige Naturwissenschaft dieses oder jenes an Ergebnissen zustande gebracht hat, so rührt das allerdings auch von Kräften her, welche sich aus der Menschenseele entwickelt und entfaltet haben. Aber die Menschenseelen, die in unserer Zeit gewirkt haben, waren auch verkörpert im ägyptisch-chaldäischen Zeitalter und haben dort gewisse Erlebnisse aufgenommen, ohne welche sie das nicht verrichten könnten, was sie heute verrichten. Hätten nicht die Schüler der altägyptischen Tempelpriester die ägyptische Astrologie über die Zusammenhänge des Himmels aufgenommen, so hätten sie nicht auf ihre Art später eindringen können in die Weltengeheimnisse, und es wären in gewissen Seelen unserer Zeit nicht die Kräfte gewesen, welche die Menschheit jetzt in unserer Zeit hinausgeführt haben in die Himmelsräume. Wie kam zum Beispiel Kepler zu seinen Entdeckungen? Er kam dazu, weil eine Seele in ihm lebte, die im ägyptisch-chaldäischen Zeitraum die Kräfte zu jenen Entdeckungen aufgenommen hatte, welche sie im fünften Zeitraum dann machen konnte. Es erfüllt uns mit einer gewissen inneren Befriedigung, wenn in einzelnen Geistern gleichsam Erinnerungen auftauchen in der Art, daß die Keime zu dem, was sie jetzt tun, in der Vergangenheit gelegt worden sind. Einer der Geister, der Wichtiges geleistet hat in bezug auf die Erforschung der Himmelsgesetze, Kepler, sagt von sich selbst:","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":334,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/120/1910-05-16/p033"},{"locus":"GA 120/1910-05-16/p034","passage_number":34,"text":"«Ja, ich bin es, ich habe die goldenen Gefäße der Ägypter geraubt, um meinem Gott aus ihnen ein Heiligtum zu errichten, fern von den Grenzen Ägyptens. Wenn ihr mir vergebt, werde ich mich freuen, wenn ihr zürnt, werde ich es tragen; — hier werf ich den Würfel und schreibe dies Buch für den heutigen wie den dereinstigen Leser — was liegt daran? Und wenn es auf seinen Leser hundert Jahre warten muß: Gott selbst hat sechs Jahrtausende dessen geharrt, der sein Werk erkennend erblickt.»","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":84,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/120/1910-05-16/p034"}],"english":["GA 120/1910-05-16/p028"],"method":"length","confidence":"medium","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":418,"en_words":430,"ratio":1.03,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","anchors","reader"],"reader_german":["GA 120/1910-05-16/p033","GA 120/1910-05-16/p034"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.01,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8705,"original_word_count":8647,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Manifestations of Karma","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA120/English/RSP1984/19100516p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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