{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 120/1910-05-21/p013","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"That this is so can be confirmed from the reports of those mystics who attempted really to penetrate the inner being of man. Let us consider Meister Eckhart, Johannes Tauler, and other mystics of the Middle Ages, who in order to descend into their own inner being dedicated themselves to a state in which their attention and interest was entirely turned away from the external world. Let us read the biographies of many Saints and Mystics who tried to descend into their inner selves. What was their experience? Temptations, tribulations, and similar experiences which they have depicted in vivid colours. These were compressed in the astral body and Ego, and made themselves felt as opposing forces. That is why all those who as Mystics have attempted to descend into the inner self found that the further they descended, the more were they impelled to an extinguishing of their Ego. Meister Eckhart found an excellent word to describe this descending into his own inner self. He speaks of ‘Ent Werdung,’ that is to say the extinction of the Ego. And we read in “;The Theologia Germanica”; (German Theology) how the author describes the mystic path into the inner human being, and how he insists that he who wishes to descend will act no longer through his own Ego, but that Christ with Whom he is fully permeated, will act within him. Such Mystics sought to extinguish their Ego. Not they themselves, but Christ within them should think, feel, and will, so that there may not emerge what dwells within them in the form of passion, desire and greed, but rather that which streams into them as Christ. That is why St. Paul says ‘Not I, but Christ in me.’","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. The Relationships Between Karma and Accidents","site_heading":null,"date":"1910-05-21","location":null,"word_count":288,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/120/1910-05-21/p013","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Manifestations of Karma","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA120/English/RSP1984/19100521p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. 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Versuchungen, Anfechtungen und dergleichen, die sie in lebendigen Farben schildern. Das war dasjenige, was sich aus dem zusammengepreßten astralischen Leib und Ich als eine Widerkraft geltend machte. Daher haben diejenigen, welche sozusagen ungeschoren als Mystiker in das eigene Innere hinuntersteigen wollten, mit aller Macht darauf gedrungen, daß in demselben Maße, als sie hinunterstiegen, das Ich ausgelöscht würde. Ein schönes Wort hat sogar Meister Eckart gefunden, um dieses Hinuntersteigen in die eigene Leiblichkeit zu bezeichnen. Er spricht von «Entwerdung», das heißt Auslöschen des Ich. Und lesen Sie in der «Deutschen Theologie», wie der Verfasser darstellt den mystischen Gang in das menschliche Innere, wie er darauf dringt, daß derjenige, der hinuntersteigen will in die Leiblichkeit, nicht mehr aus seinem Ich handelt, sondern daß in ihm der Christus handelt, mit dem er sich ganz durchdrungen hat. Auslöschen wollten solche Mystiker ihr Ich. Nicht sie sollen denken, fühlen und wollen, sondern der Christus in ihnen soll denken, fühlen und wollen, damit nicht dasjenige aus ihnen herauskommt, was in ihnen als Leidenschaften, Trieb und Begierde lebt, sondern damit dasjenige herauskommt, was sich als der Christus in sie ergießt. Daher sagt Paulus: «Nicht ich, sondern der Christus in mir»! 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