{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 120/1910-05-21/p025","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"If you burn yourself—which is an external experience—this causes pain. If a pain is to appear, the consciousness must have at least the degree of consciousness of the astral body. A pain must be in the astral body; thus, whenever pain arises in the human soul, we are dealing with an occurrence in the astral body. Now let us suppose something happens which is not connected with pain, but is, however, an external stimulus, an external impression. If something flies into your eye, this causes an external stimulus and the eye closes. Pain is not connected with it. What does the irritant produce? A movement. This is something similar to what occurs when the sole of your foot is touched; it is not pain, but still the foot twitches. Thus there are also impressions upon a human being which are not accompanied by pain, but which still give rise to some sort of an event, namely, a movement. In this case, because he cannot penetrate down into this deep degree of consciousness, the person does not know how it comes about that a movement follows the external stimulus. When you perceive pain and you thereby repulse something, it is the pain which makes you notice that which you then reject. But now something may come which urges you to an inner movement, to a reflex movement. In this case the consciousness does not descend to the degree at which the irritant is transformed into movement. Here you have a degree of consciousness which does not come into your astral experience, which is not experienced consciously, which runs its course in a kind of sleep consciousness, but is not, however, such, that it does not lead to occurrences. When this deeper penetration of the etheric body into the physical body comes about, it produces a consciousness which is not a pain consciousness, because the astral body takes no part in it, but is so vague that the person does not perceive it. This does not necessarily mean that a person in this consciousness cannot perform actions. He also performs other actions in which his consciousness takes no part. You need only remember the case in which the ordinary day-consciousness is extinguished and a person while walking in his sleep commits all kinds of acts. In this case there is a kind of consciousness which the person cannot share in, because he can only experience the two higher forms of consciousness: the astral consciousness as pleasure and pain, etc., and the Ego-consciousness as judgement and as the ordinary day-consciousness. This does not imply that a man cannot act under the impulse of this sleep consciousness.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"6. The Relationships Between Karma and Accidents","site_heading":null,"date":"1910-05-21","location":null,"word_count":443,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/120/1910-05-21/p025","alignment_confidence":"medium","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Manifestations of Karma","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA120/English/RSP1984/19100521p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. No translator is established for this lecture: nothing at the level of the lecture names one. Do not attribute this English to a translator, and do not borrow a credit from another lecture of the volume. 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Das ist etwas Ähnliches, wie wenn Ihre Fußsohle berührt wird: Schmerz ist es nicht — dennoch zuckt der Fuß. Es gibt also auch solche Eindrücke auf den Menschen, die nicht von Schmerzen begleitet sind, die dennoch aber herausfordern irgendein Geschehnis, eine Bewegung. Da weiß der Mensch nicht - weil er nicht bis in diesen tiefen Grad des Bewußtseins hinunterdringen kann -, wie so etwas zustande kommt, daß eine Bewegung folgt auf den Reiz. Wenn Sie Schmerz empfinden, und Sie weisen dadurch etwas zurück, so ist es der Schmerz, der Sie aufmerksam gemacht hat auf das, was Sie dann zurückweisen. Es kann aber etwas auftreten, was Sie zu einer inneren Bewegung drängt, zu einer Reflexbewegung. Da dringt das Bewußtsein nicht bis zu dem Grade hinunter, wo der Reiz in Bewegung umgesetzt wird. Da haben Sie einen solchen Bewußtseinsgrad, der nicht in Ihre astralischen Erlebnisse hineinkommt, der bewußt nicht erlebt wird, der in einer Art von Schlafbewußtseinssphäre verläuft, der aber darum doch nicht so ist, daß er nicht zu Geschehnissen führen könnte. Wenn ein solches tieferes Eindringen des Atherleibes in den physischen Leib stattfindet, so ist dies das Hervorbringen eines Bewußtseins, das nicht ein Schmerzbewußtsein ist, weil sich der astralische Leib nicht daran beteiligt, sondern das so dumpf ist, daß es der Mensch nicht wahrnimmt. Damit ist aber nicht gesagt, daß der Mensch in diesem Bewußtsein keine Handlungen ausführen kann, nicht etwas tun könnte, was der ganzen Sachlage entspräche. Der Mensch führt ja auch sonst Handlungen aus, bei denen sein Bewußtsein nicht dabei ist. Sie brauchen nur daran zu denken, wo das gewöhnliche Tagesbewußtsein ausgelöscht ist und der Mensch als Nachtwandler alle möglichen Handlungen ausführt. Da ist nicht etwa gar kein Bewußtsein vorhanden, sondern es ist ein solches Bewußtsein daran beteiligt, das der Mensch nicht miterleben kann, weil er nur die zwei höchsten Bewußtseinsformen erleben kann: das astralische Bewußtsein als Lust und Leid und dergleichen und das Ich-Bewußstsein als Urteil und als gewöhnliches Tagesbewußtsein. 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