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We know that evolution had to wait, we know that it was not until the time of our own planetary existence that the earth element could be added to the warmth of Saturn, to the aeriform element of the Sun, and to the water element of the Moon. We know that each advance in evolution can only take place through the work of spiritual Beings. To include what we today call our physical body, the lowest member of our human being, and to give it its place in this elemental existence, we may say that from the first rudiments which it developed on Saturn it too has struggled through all these conditions. Thus we have in our own outer physical bodies something of which we can say that it has passed through an existence in pure warmth, an existence as a body of air, an existence as a body of water, and has risen to an earth existence. We know too who were the Beings on Saturn who participated in the first stages of the work on the human physical body. You will remember that I said in *Occult Science*—and I have frequently said it elsewhere—that to begin with, certain spiritual Beings worked on Saturn who had passed through their lower stages of evolution in a long distant past, and who were already so far advanced that they were able to sacrifice their own corporeality to supply the foundation, the basic substance for Saturn. In the order of the hierarchies these spiritual Beings are none other than those whom we call the Spirits of Will. Into the substance thus provided, which had been offered as a sacrifice by the Spirits of Will, the other hierarchies then worked. Into this substance the Spirits of Personality worked, and imprinted in it their own “humanity.” It was this will-substance which worked in Saturn as the warmth element, and it was in this that the first rudiments of the human physical body were formed.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":362,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/122/1910-08-22/p006","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy Lenn and Owen Barfield","identified_edition":"RSP1982","book_title":"Genesis","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA122/English/RSP1982/19100822p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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And anyone who wishes to get to the bottom of things has to ask himself which of the hierarchies has brought it about that out of the more rarefied warmth-substance, the denser air comes into being. It is those very Spirits of Will who sacrificed the warmth-substance out of themselves who have brought this about! We may describe their activity by saying that during the Saturn evolution they were so advanced as to be able to allow their own substance to flow out as warmth, so advanced as to be able to offer their own substance as a sacrifice, so advanced that their fire streamed into the planetary existence of Saturn. Then during the Sun evolution they condensed this, their fire, into the gaseous element. But it was also they who during the Moon evolution condensed their gaseous element to water. During the earth evolution they have further condensed their watery element into the earth element, into solid. Thus, when we look upon the solid matter in the world, we have to say to ourselves that in this solid matter forces are at work which alone make its existence possible, forces whose very being flowed out from Saturn as warmth and whose effluence has become denser and denser until it has now reached the solid state, held together by their power. And if we would know who it is that brings this about, if we would look beyond the *maya* of solid matter, we should have to say that behind all this solid matter which we encounter there work and weave the Spirits of Will, the Thrones. Thus the Spirits of Will are still present in earth existence.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":407,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/122/1910-08-22/p007","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy Lenn and Owen Barfield","identified_edition":"RSP1982","book_title":"Genesis","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA122/English/RSP1982/19100822p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. The translator IS verified for this lecture: its own source names the translator (evidence: the lecture's page, rsarchive's lecture list, or the cover of the book it was published in), and that page's text was matched against this unit (see match_score and source_url). 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When we are told that what is expressed in Genesis as *bara* is a kind of meditative activity of the Elohim, we have to say that through their meditation the Elohim recreated, as out of memory, something which I have described as a complex of existence. But in a certain way there happened to the Elohim what happens to us when we try to create something out of memory, though we, of course, unfold our activity at a much lower level. Let me give you an example. A man goes to sleep at night. His world of thought and feeling sinks into oblivion, he passes into the condition of sleep. Suppose that the last thought he had before he fell asleep in the evening was of a rose beside him. This thought sinks into oblivion. In the morning the thought of the rose emerges again. Even if the rose no longer remained by him, the thought would be there. You must distinguish between two things. The one is the calling up in memory of the idea of the rose, which could occur even if the rose had been taken away. But if the rose is still there, he also perceives the actual rose. That is the other thing. In the same way you should distinguish two things in what I have described as the cosmic meditation of the Elohim. When we are told that on the third “day” of creation a cosmic meditation took place, that the Elohim made a division between the fluid and the solid, that they separate off the solid and call it earth, in this we must certainly think of the cosmic act of meditation of the Elohim from whom this creative thought springs; but in what arises to meet their musing we have to think of the Spirits of Will at work, now bringing forth once more the objective in its own substantial nature. Thus work the Spirits of Will, and so they have worked from the very beginning in everything of an earth nature.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":354,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/122/1910-08-22/p008","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy Lenn and Owen Barfield","identified_edition":"RSP1982","book_title":"Genesis","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA122/English/RSP1982/19100822p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Actually, when we penetrate through external matter, through the elementary covering of the earth, to what has made this earth covering solid, it would be natural to feel the deepest reverence for the exalted Beings we call the Spirits of Will, who have laboured so long in this earth element to build up the solid ground upon which we tread, and which we ourselves bear within us in the earthly constituents of our physical bodies. It is these Spirits of Will, whom in Christian esotericism we also call the Thrones, who have in fact constructed—or rather condensed—the solid ground upon which we walk. The esotericists who gave names to what the Spirits of Will brought forth within our earth existence called these Spirits Thrones, because they built thrones upon which we are all the time being supported, as upon a solid ground, and upon which all the rest of our earth existence continues to base itself as upon firm seats. These ancient expressions contain something worthy of tremendous respect, something to which our feeling can fully respond.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":297,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/122/1910-08-22/p009","witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Dorothy Lenn and Owen Barfield","identified_edition":"RSP1982","book_title":"Genesis","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA122/English/RSP1982/19100822p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wir wissen, daß die Entwickelung hat warten müssen bis zu unserem planetarischen Dasein, daß erst dann das Erdige hat hinzukommen können zum Wärmehaften des alten Saturn, zum Luftartigen der alten Sonne und zum Wässerigen des alten Mondes. Wir wissen, daß ein jeder Entwickelungsschritt nur dadurch vor sich gehen kann, daß geistige Wesenheiten arbeiten. Von dem, was wir heute den physischen Leib nennen, das niederste Glied unserer menschlichen Wesenheit, dürfen wir sagen, wenn wir diesen physischen Leib ganz hineinstellen in das elementarische Dasein, daß er sich selbst durchgerungen hat von seiner ersten Anlage, die er auf dem alten Saturn entwickelt hat, aus dem Wärmezustand, durch den sonnenartigen Luftzustand, durch den mondartigen Wasserzustand und herangeschritten ist bis zu dem gegenwärtigen Erdenzustand. Wir haben also in unserem eigenen äußeren physischen Leib etwas, von dem wir sagen können, es hat durchschritten ein Dasein im bloßen Wärmeweben, ein Dasein als luftartiger Leib, ein Dasein als wässeriger Leib und ist aufgestiegen bis zum erdenhaften Dasein. — Wir kennen auch die Wesenheiten, welche an der alten Saturnarbeit, an dem ersten Entwickelungszustand des physischen Menschenleibes, beteiligt waren. Erinnern Sie sich an das, was Sie in meiner «Geheimwissenschaft» dargestellt finden, was auch sonst immer gesagt worden ist: Auf dem alten Saturn wirkten zunächst gewisse geistige Wesenheiten, welche ihre untergeordneten Entwickelungsstufen in einer urfernen Vergangenheit durchgemacht haben und die so weit schon waren während des alten Saturndaseins, daß sie gleichsam ihre eigene Leiblichkeit opfern konnten, hinopfern konnten, um das Grundmaterial, die Grundsubstanz abzugeben für den alten Saturn. Diese geistigen Wesenheiten sind ja in der Ordnung der Hierarchien keine anderen als diejenigen, die wir bezeichnen als die Geister des Willens. Was so als Grundsubstanz vorhanden war, was hingeopfert haben diese Geister des Willens, in das arbeiteten dann hinein die anderen geistigen Wesenheiten, die anderen Hierarchien; in das arbeiteten auch sich selber hinein die Geister der Persönlichkeit, die in dieser Willensmaterie, wenn ich so sagen darf, ausprägten ihre eigene Menschlichkeit. Und diese Willenssubstanz war es auch, die als Wärmeelement im alten Saturndasein wirkte und in der die erste Anlage zum physischen Menschenleib gebildet worden ist.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":386,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/122/1910-08-22/p006"},{"locus":"GA 122/1910-08-22/p007","passage_number":7,"text":"Sie dürfen aber nicht glauben, daß solche geistigen Wesenheiten wie die Geister des Willens etwa mit ihrer Arbeit abschließen auf einer bestimmten Stufe. Wenn sie auch auf dem alten Saturn gewissermaßen die Hauptarbeit geleistet hatten: während des Entwickelungsganges durch Sonne, Mond und Erde wirkten sie weiter. Und sie blieben in einer gewissen Beziehung in dem Substantiellen, für das sie sich zuerst hingeopfert hatten. Wir haben ja gesehen, daß innerhalb des alten Sonnendaseins sich nach der Verdichtungsseite hin, also gleichsam nach unten, das Wärmehafte in das Lufthafte umgestaltet hat. Ein solcher Vorgang, den wir etwa dem äußeren Schein nach verfolgen können wie eine Verdichtung des Wärmehaften in das Lufthafte, der ist eben nur der Maja, der Illusion nach ein Verdichtungsvorgang. In diesem Verdichten selber liegt ein geistiges Weben und Wesen, liegt eine geistige Tätigkeit. Und derjenige, der den Dingen auf den Grund gehen will, muß fragen: Wer hat es denn gemacht innerhalb der Reihe der Hierarchien, daß aus dem dünneren \\Wärmestoff, wenn ich mich so ausdrücken darf, der dichtere Luftstoff gefestigt worden ist? — Niemand anders hat das bewirkt als wiederum dieselben Geister des Willens, die den Wärmestoff aus sich herausgeopfert haben. So daß wir diese Tätigkeit der Geister des Willens so auffassen können, daß wir sagen: sie waren während des alten Saturndaseins so weit, daß sie ihre eigene Substanz als Wärme ausfließen ließen, substantiell hinopferten, daß ihr Feuer in das planetarische Dasein des alten Saturn einströmte. Dann erhärteten sie dieses ihr Feuer während des alten Sonnendaseins zum Gasigen. Sie selber waren es aber auch, die ihr Gasiges während des alten Mondendaseins zum Wässerigen dichteten, und während des Erdendaseins verdichteten sie weiter ihr Wässeriges zum Erdigen, zum Festen. — Wenn wir also heute den Blick herumwenden in der Welt und das Feste erblicken, so müssen wir sagen: In diesem Festen wirken Kräfte, die es einzig und allein möglich machen, daß dieses Feste existiert, die durch ihre eigene Wesenheit, ausgeflossen sind als Wärme auf dem alten Saturn, die immer dichter diesen Ausfluß gemacht haben bis zum Festen, das sie nun kraftvoll zusammenhalten. — Und wenn wir wissen wollen, wer das tut, wenn wir den Blick über die Maja des Festen hinaus richten, dann müssen wir sagen: Hinter allem, was uns als Festes entgegentritt, wirken und weben die Geister des Willens, die Throne. — Also auch noch innerhalb des Erdendaseins sind die Geister des Willens vorhanden. Und jetzt stellt sich uns das, was in der Genesis berichtet wird, noch in einem neuen Lichte dar.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":411,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/122/1910-08-22/p007"},{"locus":"GA 122/1910-08-22/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Wenn wir da hören, daß es eine Art von sinnender Tätigkeit der Elohim ist, was in der Genesis mit bara bezeichnet wird, so müssen wir sagen: Ja, die Elohim schufen wieder durch ihr Sinnen wie aus der Erinnerung heraus etwas, was ich als Komplexe des Daseins bezeichnet habe. — Aber geradeso ging es auch in einer gewissen Beziehung diesen Elohim, wie es uns geht, wenn wir aus der Erinnerung heraus irgend etwas schaffen; allerdings entfalten wir solche Tätigkeit nur auf einem viel niedrigeren Gebiete. Ich möchte in einem Vergleich sprechen. Denken Sie sich, ein Mensch schläft abends ein. Seine Gefühls- und Vorstellungswelt sinkt hinunter in die Vergessenheit für sein subjektives Bewußtsein, er geht in den Schlafzustand über. Nehmen wir an, der letzte Gedanke, den er des Abends gehabt hat, sei, um ein Beispiel zu haben, der einer Rose gewesen, einer Rose, die in seiner Nähe stand, als er einschlief. Dieser Gedanke sinkt hinunter in die Vergessenheit. Am Morgen taucht der Gedanke der Rose wieder auf. Es würde nun bloß dieser Gedanke dastehen, wenn nicht die Rose geblieben wäre. Unterscheiden Sie jetzt zwischen diesen zwei Tatsachen. Die eine ist das Heraufrufen Ihrer Vorstellung von der Rose in die Erinnerung, die unter Umständen auch auftauchen könnte, wenn die Rose weggenommen worden wäre, also der Gedanke, die Erinnerung an die Rose. Wenn aber die Rose stehengeblieben ist, dann taucht für Ihr Wahrnehmen auch die substantielle Rose auf. Das ist die andere Tatsache. Ich bitte Sie, nun auch bei alledem, was wir als kosmisches Sinnen der Elohim bezeichnet haben, ähnlich zwei Tatsachen zu unterscheiden. Wenn uns also erzählt wird, daß im dritten Momente des Erdenwerdens ein kosmisches Sinnen stattfindet, daß die Elohim abtrennen das Flüssige vom Festen, daß sie das Feste heraussondern und es als Erde bezeichnen, so müssen wir da auch das kosmische Sinnen der Elohim ins Auge fassen, denen produktiv dieser Gedanke entkeimt; aber in dem, was vor ihrem Sinnen auftritt, müssen wir uns wirksam denken die Geister des Willens, die nun das Objektive in ihrer eigenen substantiellen Wesenheit wieder hervorbringen. So wirken und wirkten von Anfang an in allem Erdenhaften, das wir um uns herum haben, die Geister des Willens.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":359,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/122/1910-08-22/p008"},{"locus":"GA 122/1910-08-22/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Sie müssen sich schon bekannt machen mit solchen Vorstellungen, daß unter Umständen in dem, was uns als das Nächste umgibt, was wir oft als etwas sehr Niedriges auffassen, uns sehr hohe und erhabene Wesenheiten entgegentreten. Es ist leicht und billig, bei dem, was uns als Festes entgegentritt, zu sagen: «Das ist ja nun bloß Materie!», und vielleicht hat so mancher das Gelüste zu sagen: Darum kümmert sich der Geistesforscher gar nicht! Materie ist ja nur untergeordnetes Dasein! Was kümmert uns dieser Stoff? Wir dringen über die Materie hinauf ins Geistige! — Derjenige, der so denkt, beachtet nicht, daß in dem, was er so sehr verachten möchte, durch unzählige Zeiträume hindurch gearbeitet haben, um es in diesen Zustand des Festen zu bringen, hohe, erhabene geistige Wesenheiten. Und in der Tat, unser Gefühl müßte, wenn es normal empfände, in einer tiefen Ehrfurcht leben, wenn es vordringt von dem äußeren Stoff, gleichsam von der elementarischen Erdendecke, zu dem, was diese Erdendecke verfestet hat. Unser Gefühl sollte in tiefster Verehrung sich aneignen die höchste Achtung für die erhabenen geistigen Wesenheiten, die wir nennen die Geister des Willens, die in diesem Erdenhaften in langer Tätigkeit den festen Grund aufgebaut haben, über den wir dahinschreiten und den wir selbst in uns tragen in den erdenhaften Bestandteilen unseres physischen Leibes. Diese Geister des Willens, die wir in der christlichen Esoterik auch die Throne nennen, sie haben uns in der Tat den festen Untergrund gebaut oder, besser gesagt, gedichtet, auf dem wir dahinschreiten. Diejenigen, die als Esoteriker den Erzeugnissen der Geister des Willens innerhalb unseres Erdendaseins Namen gaben, sie nannten diese Geister die Throne, weil sie uns in der Tat die Throne gebaut haben, auf die wir als auf einen festen Untergrund uns immerdar stützen, auf dem alles andere Erdendasein wie auf seinen festen Thronen weiterfußt. 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