{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 123/1910-09-06/p036","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I am quite aware that these words are usually translated ‘and Jesus increased in wisdom, age (stature in the English version), and in favour with God and man.’ Do we require a Gospel to tell us that a twelve-year-old boy increased in age? But in Weizeker's translation we have the words: ‘and Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.’ This, however, is not the meaning; the real meaning is, that an individuality is now in the Nathan Jesus, who is not, as formerly, only a being of inward feeling unable to express itself outwardly, but, because it has now assumed a complete physical body, it has also passed on into external physical excellence. At the same time those qualities that especially concerned the etheric body—the habits acquired and cultivated by means of the etheric body—were not to be found previously in the Nathan Jesus. In him the seed of a mighty capacity for love was apparent which could now be developed further, but this attribute sprang up spontaneously in him and could not become fixed as habits are. But once the Zarathustra individuality, which possessed the powers of an evolved physical and etheric body, was present, it was possible for external habits to reveal themselves and to imprint themselves on the etheric body. This was the second attribute in which the child Jesus increased.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Stages of downward penetration of divine nature into a human individuality","site_heading":"Divine Descent and the Two Jesus Children","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Sie finden sogar in der Übersetzung von Weizsäcker: «Und Jesus nahm zu an Weisheit und Gestalt und Gnade bei Gott und Menschen.» Das ist aber alles nicht gemeint; sondern gemeint ist, daß jetzt eine Individualität in dem nathanischen Jesusknaben war, die nicht, wie früher, bloß innerlich war, die sich äußerlich nicht ankündigte, sondern die jetzt, weil sie sich herangebildet hatte in einem vollendeten physischen Leib, auch überging in die äußere physische Wohlgestalt. Aber auch, was in dem Ätherleibe besonders gepflegt wird, was man sich im Ätherleibe aus dem Leben an Gewohnheiten aneignet und ausbildet, das war früher bei dem nathanischen Jesus nicht vorhanden. Bei diesem trat auf eine gewaltige Anlage zur Liebefähigkeit, und darauf konnte jetzt weiter gebaut werden. Aber diese Anlage war mit einem Schlage da, die konnte sich nicht in die Gewohnheiten hineinpressen. Jetzt aber war die andere Individualität da, die in sich die Kräfte hatte aus einem Heranwachsen des physischen Leibes und des Ätherleibes, und jetzt konnten sich auch äußerlich Gewohnheiten zeigen und in den Ätherleib hineingießen. Das ist das zweite, an dem der Jesusknabe zunahm. Das dritte, «an Weisheit», ist schon etwas selbstverständlicher. Der Jesus des Lukas-Evangeliums war nicht weise; er war ein im höchsten Grade liebefähiges Wesen. Aber das Zunehmen an Weisheit war dadurch gegeben, daß die Zarathustra-Individualität in ihn einzog.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":263,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/123/1910-09-06/p029"}],"english":["GA 123/1910-09-06/p036","GA 123/1910-09-06/p037"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":263,"en_words":274,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.9,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":5403,"original_word_count":5980,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"not_established","translator":null,"identified_edition":"RSPC1946","book_title":"The Gospel of St. Matthew (1946)","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Publishing Co.","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA123/English/RSPC1946/19100906p01.html","evidence":null,"reason":"source_says_translator_unknown","note":"The source page itself says the translator is unknown. 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