{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 124/1911-01-16/p012","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us now consider what it is that civilisation gives to men, what they have to learn in order to make progress. Every individual has at his disposal what is yielded by his own epoch, but also, to a certain extent, the fruits of earlier epochs. Now it is only what derives from the lowest Hierarchies up to and including the Time-Spirits that can be preserved as history and be taught and studied as such. What streams directly from the kingdoms of nature cannot be preserved in tradition. Nevertheless, men whose powers of knowledge enable them to penetrate into the supersensible worlds can pass beyond the Time-Spirits to still higher forms of revelation. Such revelations are recognised as belonging to a realm higher than that of the Time-Spirits, as having greater weight than anything deriving from the Time-Spirits, and as affecting men in a very special way. Every rational human being should ask himself now and then whether his soul is affected more profoundly by what can be learnt from the traditions of the several peoples and Time-Spirits of historical epochs, or by a glorious sunrise, which is a direct manifestation of nature and of the supersensible worlds. Individuals may well become conscious that a sunrise in all its glory can stir the soul infinitely more deeply than all the science, the learning and the art of the ages. Suppose we have been deeply moved by the works in the Italian Galleries of Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci, Raphael and others, and later on climb some Swiss mountain and contemplate the spectacle there presented, we shall be vividly conscious of what nature can reveal. We shall ask: Who is the greater artist: Raphael, Leonardo da Vinci, or the Powers who have painted the sunrise to be seen from the Rigi?—And the answer can only be that wonderful as are the achievements of men, what comes before us as a revelation of divine-spiritual Powers is far greater.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. The Son of God and the Son of Man. The Sacrifice of Orpheus","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-01-16","location":null,"word_count":325,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/124/1911-01-16/p012","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"E. H. Goddard and Dorothy S. 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Da wird einem jeden Menschen in seiner Epoche das gegeben, was diese Epoche selbst erzeugt, aber auch alles, was die früheren Epochen miterzeugt haben in einer gewissen Weise. Nur das kann geschichtlich, historisch aufbewahrt werden, kann Gegenstand des geschichtlichen Lehrens und Lernens werden, was von den untersten Hierarchien herrührt, die bis zum Zeitgeist hinaufgehen. Was dagegen herausströmt aus den Reichen der Natur selber, das kann nicht aufbewahrt werden in Überlieferungen und Traditionen. Diejenigen jedoch, welche in die übersinnlichen Welten eindringen können, sie dringen durch ihr übersinnliches Erkenntnisvermögen auch hinter den Zeitgeist zu noch höheren Offenbarungen. Solche Offenbarungen nehmen sich dann als etwas aus, was jenseits des Zeitgeistes ist, was mehr Gewicht hat als das, was vom Zeitgeist stammt, was in einer ganz eigentümlichen Art auf die Menschen wirkt. Jeder gesunde Mensch sollte wirklich einmal ernstlich Einkehr halten und sich fragen: Was wirkt auf meine Seele mehr: was ich lernen kann aus den Überlieferungen der einzelnen Völker und Zeitgeister, aus der historischen Überlieferung seit den geschichtlichen Zeiten — oder ein herrlicher Sonnenaufgang, das heißt, die Manifestation der Natur selber, der übersinnlichen Welten? -— Denn der Mensch kann sich bewußt werden, daß ein Sonnenaufgang mit all seiner Größe und Gewalt in der Seele unendlich viel mehr auslösen kann als alle Wissenschaft, als alle Gelehrsamkeit und Kunst zu allen Zeiten. Was überhaupt die Natur offenbart, das kann insbesondere der empfinden, der etwa einmal eine Reise gemacht hat durch die Galerien Italiens, der alles gesehen hat, was erhalten ist von Michelangelo, von Leonardo da Vinci, Raffael und so weiter, und mit aller Gewalt hat auf sich wirken lassen, und der dann irgendeinen der Schweizer Berge besteigt und sich ein Naturschauspiel ansieht. Da fragt man sich: Wer ist ein größerer Maler: Raffael, Leonardo da Vinci — oder diejenigen Mächte, welche den Sonnenaufgang malen, den man vom Rigi aus beobachten kann? — Und man wird sich sagen müssen: So sehr wir auch bewundern, was jemals Menschen geleistet haben das, was sich uns darstellt als die geistig-göttliche Offenbarung der geistigen Mächte, das erscheint uns dennoch als das Größere.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":361,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/124/1911-01-16/p010"}],"english":["GA 124/1911-01-16/p012"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":361,"en_words":325,"ratio":0.9,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.95,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6274,"original_word_count":6604,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. 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