{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 124/1911-01-16/p038","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"The Leaders in the second and third post-Atlantean culture-epochs who became mouthpieces for utterances of the spiritual worlds were able to perceive their own etheric body separated from the physical. In the civilisations where ancient clairvoyance prevailed—and it was the same even among the Celts—when a man was to be made aware of something he was called upon to communicate to his fellow-men, it was revealed to him in this way: his etheric body emerged from the physical body and became the bearer of forces which streamed down into it. If those who proclaimed the utterances of the spiritual worlds were men, their etheric bodies were female and they consequently saw in female form whatever communicated messages to them from the spiritual worlds.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. The Son of God and the Son of Man. The Sacrifice of Orpheus","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-01-16","location":null,"word_count":123,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/124/1911-01-16/p038","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"E. H. Goddard and Dorothy S. Osmond","identified_edition":"RSP1985","book_title":"Background to the Gospel of St. Mark","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA124/English/RSP1985/19110116p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Wenn nun die Verkünder Männer waren und also ihre Ätherleiber weiblich waren, so nahmen sie dasjenige, was ihnen etwas aus den geistigen Welten vermittelte, in weiblicher Gestalt wahr.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":230,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/124/1911-01-16/p032"}],"english":["GA 124/1911-01-16/p037","GA 124/1911-01-16/p038"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":230,"en_words":200,"ratio":0.87,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.95,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6274,"original_word_count":6604,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. Goddard and Dorothy S. 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