{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 124/1911-01-16/p042","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And now keep in mind this man living on the physical plane; he is normally able to remember back only to a certain point of time; beyond this lie the three years of earliest childhood. With this thread of memory he is so enmeshed in the physical plane that, in his own being, he cannot endure it and he is torn to pieces. Thus it is with the true spirit of man to-day—here is a proof of how deeply he is enmeshed in matter. This is the spirit which in Pauline Christianity is called the ‘Son of Man’. Here is a concept which you must grasp—the concept of the Son of Man who can be found in a human being onwards from the point in his life to which his later memory extends, and includes everything he has acquired from the civilisation around him. Keep this ‘man’ in your mind, and then picture to yourselves what he might become if there were added to him all that presses in upon him from the Macrocosm in the first three years of his childhood. This could be a foundation only, because at that stage the developed human ‘I’ is not yet present. But if it did merge into the consciousness of a developed ‘I’, we should witness a happening comparable with what took place at the Baptism in the Jordan at the moment when the Spirit descended from above into Jesus of Nazareth: the three innocent years of early childhood merged with the rest of the human being. That is the immediate fact. And the consequence was that this innocent childhood-life, as it sought to develop on the physical Earth, could evolve for three years only—as is indeed always the case—and then met its end on Golgotha. It could not merge with what man becomes at the point in time from which in later life his memory normally begins.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. The Son of God and the Son of Man. The Sacrifice of Orpheus","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-01-16","location":null,"word_count":317,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/124/1911-01-16/p042","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"E. H. Goddard and Dorothy S. Osmond","identified_edition":"RSP1985","book_title":"Background to the Gospel of St. Mark","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA124/English/RSP1985/19110116p02.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Er erlebt dasjenige zuerst, was die erste Bewußtseinsstufe der Kindheit abstreift, den Zusammenhang mit dem Makrokosmos. Der ist nicht da, tritt nicht ins bewußte Leben hinüber. Und so wie der Mensch seiner eigentlichen Wesenheit nach ist, wird er aufgezehrt, getötet von dem Leben des physischen Planes, das eigentlich erst mit dem genannten Zeitraum beginnt. — Fassen Sie jetzt diesen Menschen ins Auge, der sozusagen der Mensch des physischen Planes ist, der sich im heutigen normalen Bewußtsein zurückerinnert bis zu einem bestimmten Zeitpunkt; vor diesem liegen drei Jahre der Kindheit. Dieser Mensch mit dem Faden der Erinnerung ist so verstrickt mit dem physischen Plan, daß es Orpheus seiner eigentlichen Wesenheit nach nicht in ihm aushalten kann, sondern zerrissen wird. Das ist der eigentliche Menschengeist der heutigen Zeit, derjenige Menschengeist, der uns zeigt, wie der Mensch am tiefsten mit der Materie verstrickt sein kann. Das ist der Geist, der im Sinne des paulinischen Christentums der Menschensohn genannt wird. Das müssen Sie sich einmal als einen Begriff aneignen: der Menschensohn, der sich im Menschen findet von dem Zeitpunkt ab, bis zu dem sich der Mensch heute zurückerinnert, mit alledem, was sich der Mensch von der Kultur aneignen kann. Fassen Sie diesen Menschen ins Auge, und denken Sie sich nun alles, was der Mensch sein könnte durch den Zusammenhang mit dem Makrokosmos, wenn hinzukäme, was in den ersten Kindheitsjahren hereindringt vom Makrokosmos. In den ersten Kindheitsjahren kann es nichts anderes sein als eine Grundlage, weil das entwickelte menschliche Ich noch nicht da ist. Wenn es aber in das entwickelte menschliche Ich hereinfiele, dann würde geschehen, was zuerst geschehen ist in dem Augenblick, als dem Jesus von Nazareth der Geist von oben herunterkam durch die Jordan-Taufe: Die drei unschuldigen Kindheits-Entwickelungsstadien mischten sich mit dem übrigen Menschentum zusammen. 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Die Folge war, daß dieses unschuldige Kindheitsleben, als es sich entwickeln wollte auf der physischen Erde, sich nur drei Jahre entwickeln konnte - wie es sich überall nur drei Jahre entwickelt — und dann auf Golgatha sein Ende fand, das heißt, sich nicht vermischen konnte mit dem, was der Mensch wird in dem Zeitpunkt, bis zu dem er sich dann normalerweise zurückerinnert.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":383,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/124/1911-01-16/p035"}],"english":["GA 124/1911-01-16/p041","GA 124/1911-01-16/p042"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":383,"en_words":400,"ratio":1.04,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.95,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6274,"original_word_count":6604,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"E. H. 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