{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 125/1910-08-26/p004","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Naturally I can only touch on individual points, but I will pick them out in such a way that when I have finished you will have some idea of the relationship I have referred to. First of all, I want to say that it can make a certain impression on a receptive soul from the outset when there is talk in the field of spiritual science of supersensible knowledge, of the progression from seer research to supersensible knowledge. But anyone who believes that he must approach these things from the presuppositions of contemporary philosophy can and must immediately, if there is any mention of such a thing, consider the fact that the objections which philosophy has to make against many things that it calls direct experience, direct perception, must apply in the same way to everything that we produce in the field of spiritual science, so to speak. As long as we, for example, clothe our seer experiences in such words that when we speak them out we make use — perhaps without being aware of it — of spatial or temporal conceptions, as soon as it can be shown to us that we do this, as soon as we are not able to shape our terminology in such a way that we do not secretly insert spatial and time into our findings, a Kantian or some other contemporary epistemologist can always come and object – either in the old form or in the various forms that these theories have taken in more recent times – that, from an epistemological point of view, space and time themselves are mere categories or forms of our imagination. Even if we clothe our visionary results in such forms, taken from time and space, we would nevertheless thereby give something that is bound to our ability to imagine. So basically – I know that the expression is contestable here – we would then express only something subjective with all our visionary results. That is a possible objection that can always be made. I will mention it as an example of numerous other objections that can be rightly formulated from an epistemological point of view.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"VI. 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Demjenigen, der da glaubt, aus den Voraussetzungen der Philosophie der Gegenwart heraus an diese Dinge heranschreiten zu müssen, dem kann und muß aber sogleich, wenn überhaupt von so etwas die Rede ist, der Gedanke kommen, daß die Einwendungen, welche die Philosophie gegen mancherlei zu machen hat, was sie unmittelbare Erfahrung, unmittelbare Wahrnehmung nennt, in derselben Weise gelten müssen auch für alles das, was wir sozusagen auf geisteswissenschaftlichem Felde produzieren. Solange wir zum Beispiel unsere seherischen Erlebnisse in solche Worte kleiden, daß wir beim Aussprechen - vielleicht bemerken Sie es gar nicht-uns räumlicher oder zeitlicher Vorstellungen bedienen, sobald uns nachgewiesen werden kann, daß wir das tun, sobald wir nicht in der Lage sind, unsere Terminologie so auszugestalten, daß wir an den entsprechenden Stellen nicht versteckterweise Raum- und Zeitvorstellungen in unsere Feststellungen hineinfügen, so lange kann immer ein Kantianer oder irgendein anderer Erkenntnistheoretiker der Gegenwart kommen und einwenden — entweder in der alten Form oder in den verschiedenen Formen, welche diese Theorien in der neueren Zeit angenommen haben -, daß erkenntnistheoretisch feststehe, Raum und Zeit selber seien bloße Kategorien oder Formen unseres Vorstellens. Wenn wir auch unsere seherischen Ergebnisse in solche Formen einkleiden, die von Zeit und Raum hergenommen sind, gäben wir dennoch schon dadurch etwas, was an unsere Vorstellungsfähigkeit gebunden ist. Also im Grunde - ich weiß, daß der Ausdruck hier anfechtbar ist — drückten wir doch dann mit allen unseren seherischen Ergebnissen nur etwas Subjektives aus. Das ist ein möglicher Einwand, der immer gemacht werden kann. Ich will ihn erwähnen als ein Beispiel von zahlreichen anderen Einwänden, die aus erkenntnistheoretischen Voraussetzungen heraus mit Recht formuliert werden können.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":338,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/125/1910-08-26/p004"}],"english":["GA 125/1910-08-26/p004"],"method":"identity","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":338,"en_words":360,"ratio":1.07,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"verified","verified":true,"evidence":["length","meaning","audit"]},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.04,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7932,"original_word_count":7595,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Steiner Online Library","identified_edition":"SOL2024","book_title":"Paths and Goals of Spiritual Man","publisher":"Steiner Online Library","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA125/English/SOL2024/19100826p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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