{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 126/1910-12-29/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"I do not know whether the majority of you are aware that for a long, long time Richard Wagner has had the bitterest, most rabid critics and opponents. These critics and opponents have had a certain guidance from the extremely ingenious work an music produced in Vienna by Eduard Hanslick, the author of the interesting little volume, *Vom Musikalisch-Schönen* (“On the Beautiful in Music.”).[^2] I do not know whether you realise that with the publication of this book the old was set up in opposition, as it were, to the rising of a new dawn in history. Hanslick's book may become an historic memorial of recent times. For what was his aim? He says: One cannot make music in the way Richard Wagner makes it; that is not music at all, for music there sets out with the intention of pointing to something that lies outside music, to something super-sensible. Music is an “arabesque in tones”—this was one of Hanslick's favourite expressions. In other words, music is an arabesque-like interweaving of tones, and the musical-aesthetic enjoyment of it may consist in purely human delight in the way in which the tones resound in and after one another. Hanslick says that Richard Wagner is no musician, that he simply does not understand the essence of the musical, that the essence of music lies simply in the architecture of the tone-material.—What can one say about such a phenomenon? One can only say that Hanslick was pre-eminently a reactionary, a straggler from the fourth culture-epoch. Then—in that epoch—he would have been right; but what is right for one epoch is not valid for the next. From Hanslick's standpoint one can say: Richard Wagner is no musician. But then one would have to add: that epoch is now over; we must accept what springs from it, reconciling ourselves through the fact that music, as Hanslick understands it, is expanding into something altogether new.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Spiritual Hierarchies and Human Incarnation in History","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. Cite the unit by its title and locus, never by this heading, and do not quote it.","date":"1910-12-29","location":null,"word_count":319,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/126/1910-12-29/p014","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"D. S. 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Er sagt: Man kann nicht in dieser Weise Musik machen wie Richard Wagner; das ist gar keine Musik, denn da nimmt die Musik sozusagen den Anlauf, auf etwas hinweisen zu wollen, was außerhalb des Musikalischen steht, auf etwas Übersinnliches. Musik sei aber «Arabeske in Tönen» — das war ein Lieblingswort des Hanslick. Das heißt, eine arabeskenartige Aneinanderfügung von Tönen, und der musikalisch-ästhetische Genuß kann darin bestehen, sich rein menschlich zu erfreuen an der Art und Weise, wie die Töne ineinander und nacheinander erklingen. Hanslick sagte, Richard Wagner sei überhaupt kein Musiker, er verstehe gar nicht das Wesen des Musikalischen. Das Wesen der Musik müsse liegen in einer bloßen Architektonik des Tonmaterials. - Was kann man über eine solche Erscheinung sagen? Nichts anderes, als daß Hanslick im eminentesten Sinne ein Nachzügler, ein Reaktionär der vierten Kulturepoche war. Da hatte er recht - für diese Kulturepoche; aber was für eine Kulturepoche richtig ist, gilt nicht mehr für die nächste. Man kann von seinem Standpunkt aus sagen, Richard Wagner sei kein Musiker. Dann aber müßte man weiter sagen: Es ist diese Epoche jetzt vorbei, wir müssen uns nun mit dem zufriedengeben, was aus dieser Epoche stammt, wir müssen uns versöhnen damit, daß sich das im Hanslickschen Sinne Musikalische erweitert über sich selbst hinaus zu einem Neuen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":303,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/126/1910-12-29/p012"}],"english":["GA 126/1910-12-29/p014"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":303,"en_words":319,"ratio":1.05,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.05,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":6485,"original_word_count":6175,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"D. S. 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