{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 130/1911-09-27/p008","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In the year 1785 the collected esoteric revelations of the rosicrucians appeared in the work: *The Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians*[^3] by *Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus*.[^4] In a certain limited sense this publication contains references to the rosicrucian stream active in the previous century which was expressed for the first time in the works collected and put together by Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus. Another hundred years later we see the influence of the rosicrucian stream coming to expression again in the work of *H. P. Blavatsky*, especially in the book *Isis Unveiled*.[^5] Much of the meaning of this image has been put into words. A considerable amount of Western occult wisdom is contained in this book that is still a long way from being improved upon, even though the composition is sometimes very confused. It is interesting to compare *The Secret Symbols of the Rosicrucians* by Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus with the works of H.P. Blavatsky. We must think especially of the first part of the publication, which is written in *Symbols*. In the second part Blavatsky deviates a little from the rosicrucian stream. In her later works she departs entirely from it, and we must be able to distinguish between her early and her later publications, even though something of H.P. Blavatsky's uncritical spirit already appears in the early ones. That this is said can only be the wish of H.P. Blavatsky who is not in incarnation now.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"III. Rosicrucian Christianity I","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-09-27","location":null,"word_count":236,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/130/1911-09-27/p008","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Pauline Wehrle","identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA130/English/RSP1984/19110927p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Unknown is not an assurance of a stenogram: check the edition's own notes before resting an argument on one word.","evidence":null,"evidence_translation":null,"evidence_source":null},"paired_german":{"status":"paired","german":[{"locus":"GA 130/1911-09-27/p008","passage_number":8,"text":"Im Jahre 1785 kamen die gesammelten esoterischen Offenbarungen der Rosenkreuzer zum Ausdruck in dem Werk: «Die geheimen Figuren der Rosenkreuzer» von Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus. In dieser Publikation sind in einem gewissen beschränkten Sinne Hinweise enthalten auf das, was gewirkt hatte in den vorangegangenen hundert Jahren als Rosenkreuzerströmung und was erst dann zum Ausdruck kam in den Arbeiten, die gesammelt waren und zusammengefasst wurden von Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus. Wieder hundert Jahre später sehen wir die Wirkung der Rosenkreuzerströmung zum Ausdruck kommen in dem Werke der H. P. Blavatsky, insbesondere in dem Buche «Die entschleierte Isis». Manches von dem Inhalt jener Figuren ist dort in Worten niedergeschrieben. Eine Summe von abendländischer okkulter Weisheit, die noch lange nicht gehoben ist, ist darin enthalten, wenn auch die Komposition manchmal recht verworren ist. Es ist interessant, «Die geheimen Figuren der Rosenkreuzer» des Hinricus Madathanus Theosophus zu vergleichen mit dem Werke der H. P. Blavatsky. Wir müssen hauptsächlich die erste Hälfte der Publikation ins Auge fassen, die im Sinne der «Figuren» verfasst ist. Im zweiten Teil kommt Blavatsky etwas ab von der Rosenkreuzerströmung. In ihren späteren Werken entfernte sich H. P. Blavatsky von diesem rosenkreuzerischen Geistesstrom, und wir müssen zwischen ihren ersten und den späteren Publikationen zu unterscheiden wissen, wenn zwar auch schon in die Ersteren manches von dem unkritischen Geist H. P. Blavatskys hineingekommen ist. Dass dieses gesagt wird, ist der jetzt nicht verkörperten H. P. 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