{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 130/1911-09-27/p012","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"In a place in Europe that cannot be named yet[^6]—though this will be possible in the not very distant future—a lodge of a very spiritual nature was formed comprising a council of twelve men who had received into themselves the sum of the spiritual wisdom of olden times and of their own time.. So we are concerned with twelve men who lived in that dark era, twelve outstanding individualities, who united together to help the progress of humanity. None of them could see directly into the spiritual world, but they could awaken to life in themselves memories of what they had experienced through earlier initiations. And the karma of mankind brought it about that in seven of the twelve all that still remained to mankind of the ancient Atlantean epoch was incarnated. In my *Occult Science* it has already been stated that in the seven holy Rishis of old, the teachers of the ancient Indian cultural epoch, all that was left of the Atlantean epoch was preserved. These seven men who were incarnated again in the thirteenth century, and who were part of the council of twelve, were just those who could look back into the seven streams of the ancient Atlantean cultural epoch of mankind and the further course of these streams. Among these seven individualities each one of them could bring one stream to life for their time and the present time. In addition to these seven there were another four who could not look back into times long past but could look back to the occult wisdom mankind had acquired in the four post-Atlantean epochs. The first could look back to the ancient Indian period, the second to the ancient Persian cultural period, the third to the Egyptian-Chaldaean-Assyrian-Babylonian cultural period and the fourth to the Greco-Roman culture. These four joined the seven to form a council of wise men in the thirteenth century. A twelfth had the fewest memories as it were, however he was the most intellectual among them, and it was his task to foster external science in particular. These twelve individualities not only lived in the experiences of Western occultism, but these twelve different streams of wisdom worked together to make a whole. A remarkable reference to this can be found in Goethe's poem *The Mysteries*.[^7]","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"III. Rosicrucian Christianity I","site_heading":null,"date":"1911-09-27","location":null,"word_count":382,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/en/ga/130/1911-09-27/p012","alignment_confidence":"high","alignment_reason":"beads:length","two_voice_volume":false,"translation_credit":{"scope":"unit","status":"established","translator":"Pauline Wehrle","identified_edition":"RSP1984","book_title":"Esoteric Christianity and the Mission of Christian Rosenkreutz","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA130/English/RSP1984/19110927p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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Und das Menschheitskarma hatte es so gefügt, dass in sieben dieser zwölf Menschen dasjenige verkörpert war, was der Menschheit geblieben war an Resten der alten atlantischen Epoche. In meiner «Geheimwissenschaft» ist ja schon gesagt, dass in den sieben alten heiligen Rishis, den Lehrern der urindischen Kulturzeit, hinübergetragen wurde das, was von der atlantischen Epoche übriggeblieben war. Die sieben Männer, die im dreizehnten Jahrhundert wieder inkarniert waren, die ein Teil des Kollegiums der Zwölf waren, das waren eben diejenigen, die zurückblicken konnten auf die sieben Strömungen der alten atlantischen Entwicklungsepoche der Menschheit und auf das, was als diese sieben Strömungen fortlebte. Von diesen sieben Individualitäten konnte jede immer nur eine Strömung fruchtbar machen für die damalige und die heutige Zeit. Zu diesen Sieben kamen vier andere, die nicht auf längst verflossene Urzeiten zurückblicken konnten wie die erstgenannten sieben Weisen, sondern diese vier Persönlichkeiten konnten zurückblicken auf das, was die Menschheit sich angeeignet hatte von okkulter Weisheit in den vier nachatlantischen Kulturperioden. Von diesen Vier konnte der Erste auf die urindische Zeit zurückblicken, der Zweite auf die urpersische Kulturzeit, der Dritte auf die ägyptisch-chaldäisch-assyrisch-babylonische Kulturzeit, der Vierte auf die griechisch-lateinische Kultur. Diese Vier vereinigten sich mit den Sieben zu dem Kollegium der weisen Männer im dreizehnten Jahrhundert. Ein Zwölfter endlich hatte gewissermaßen am wenigsten an Erinnerungen, aber er war der Intellektuellste von ihnen, der besonders die äußeren Wissenschaften zu pflegen hatte. Diese zwölf Individualitäten lebten ja nicht nur in den Erlebnissen des abendländischen Okkultismus, diese zwölf verschiedenen Weisheitsströmungen wirkten zusammen zu einem Gesamtbilde. 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