{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 131/1911-10-07/p017","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Concerning Christ Jesus there have been many opinions in the course of the centuries, or the Councils and Church assemblies and theologians would not have disputed so much among themselves; and in no period, perhaps, have so many people held various views of the Christ as in our own. Facts, however, are not determined by human opinions, but by the forces actually present in human evolution. These facts could be recognised by many more people simply through noticing what the Gospels have to say, if people had the patience and perseverance to look at things really without prejudice, and if they were not too quick and biased in considering the objective facts. Most people, however, do not want to form a picture of Christ according to the facts, but one that suits their own likings and represents their own ideal. And it must be said that in a certain respect Theosophists of all shades of opinion do this very thing today. When, for example, certain highly developed individuals who have attained an advanced stage of human evolution are spoken of in theosophical literature as Masters, or Adepts, this is a truth that cannot be disputed by anyone who knows the facts. It applies to individuals who have had many incarnations; through exercises and holy life they have pressed on in advance of mankind and have acquired powers which the rest of humanity will acquire only in the future. It is natural and right that a student of Theosophy who has acquired some knowledge concerning the Masters, the Adepts, should feel the highest respect for such lofty individuals. If we go on to contemplate so sublime a life as that of Buddha, we must agree that Buddha should be looked on as one of the highest Adepts. And we shall then be able to gain through our minds and feelings an inward relationship to such a person.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Sources of Knowledge of Christ, Lord of Karma","site_heading":"Christ as Lord of Karma: The Twentieth Century Transformation","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Über den Christus Jesus hat man viele Meinungen gehabt im Laufe der Jahrhunderte, sonst hätten die Konzilien, die Kirchenversammlungen und die Theologen nicht so viel miteinander zu streiten gehabt, und vielleicht hat keine Zeit in bezug auf die vielen Menschen zugleich so viel an Anschauungen gehabt von dem Christus, als gerade die unsrige, Aber die Tatsachen richten sich nicht nach den Anschauungen der Menschen, sondern nach dem, was wirklich an Kräften in der Menschheitsentwickelung vorhanden ist. Diese Tatsachen könnten für eine viel größere Anzahl von Menschen erkennbar sein auch durch die bloße Betrachtung dessen, was zum Beispiel in den Evangelien überliefert ist, wenn die Menschen die Geduld und Ausdauer hätten, die Dinge wirklich unbefangen zu betrachten, wenn die Menschen nicht vorschnell und parteiisch wären in der objektiven Betrachtung der Tatsachen. So aber waren die meisten Menschen darauf aus, sich ein Christus-Bild nicht nach den Tatsachen zu schaffen, sondern wie sie es gerne mochten, wie sie es als ihr Ideal hinstellten. Und in einer gewissen Beziehung, muß man sagen, tun das auch die Theosophen aller Schattierungen heute. Wenn es zum Beispiel innerhalb der theosophischen Literatur populär geworden ist, von höher entwickelten menschlichen Individualitäten zu sprechen, die einen gewissen Vorsprung gewonnen haben in der menschlichen Entwickelung, so ist das eine Wahrheit, die niemand bestreiten kann, der konkret denkt. Der Begriff des Meisters, der höheren Individualität, der Begriff selbst des Adepten muß von einem konkreten Denken zugegeben werden. Nur ein Denken, das nicht an die Entwickelung glaubt, würde diese Begriffe nicht zugeben. Wenn wir nun den Begriff des Meisters oder des Adepten ins Auge fassen, so müssen wir sagen: diese Individualität ist eine solche, die durch viele Inkarnationen hindurchgegangen ist und durch Übungen, durch ein gottseliges Leben etwas anderes erlangt hat als die andern Menschen, so daß sie der Menschheit vorausgeeilt ist und Kräfte sich angeeignet hat, welche die übrige Menschheit sich erst in der Zukunft aneignen wird. Es ist nun selbstverständlich und soll so sein, daß der, welcher aus der theosophischen Erkenntnis eine solche Anschauung von derartigen Individualitäten erlangt, ein Gefühl höchster Ehrfurcht vor der Individualität der Meister, der Adepten und so weiter erlangt. Und steigen wir von einem solchen Begriff hinauf bis zu einem solch hehren Leben, als das uns das Buddha-Leben erscheint, so daß wir im Sinne theosophischer Erkenntnis zugeben: Buddha soll angesehen werden als der höchsten Adepten einer, — dann werden wir für unsern Verstand wie für unser Gemüt und unsere Empfindungen gegenüber einer solchen Individualität einen Seelengehalt und ein Verhältnis zu ihr gewinnen können.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":461,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/131/1911-10-07/p017"}],"english":["GA 131/1911-10-07/p016","GA 131/1911-10-07/p017"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":461,"en_words":388,"ratio":0.84,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":0.96,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":7070,"original_word_count":7337,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Charles Davy","identified_edition":"RSP1973","book_title":"From Jesus to Christ","publisher":"Rudolf Steiner Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA131/English/RSP1973/19111007p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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