{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 132/1911-10-31/p014","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"When we have lifted ourselves to this vision, something meets us of which it is extremely difficult to form an idea, except for one who has taken the trouble, slowly and gradually to attain to such conceptions. For something ceases, which is more intimately connected with our ordinary human ideas than anything else: space ceases! It no longer has any meaning to say—we swim ‘up’ or ‘down,’ ‘forward’ or ‘backward,’ ‘right’ or ‘left,’ these have no longer any meaning. In this respect it is all alike But the important thing is when we reach these first ages of the Saturn existence even time ceases, there is no longer ‘earlier’ or ‘later.’ It is naturally very difficult for man to imagine this to-day, because his ideas themselves flow in time. On Saturn no thought is before or after another. This again can only be described by a feeling that time ceases. This feeling is certainly not pleasant. Imagine that your concepts are benumbed, that everything that you can remember, everything to which you look forward is benumbed into a rigid state, so that you feel yourself held in your conceptions and are no longer able to move, then you will no longer be able to say that what you formerly experienced you experienced formerly; you are fastened to it; it is there, but it is benumbed: time ceases to be of significance, it is absolutely no longer there. On this account it is rather foolish for anyone to say: ‘you describe the Saturn existence, the Sun existence etc, now tell us what was before Saturn.’ ‘Before’ has no longer any meaning because time ceases to exist; we have done with all definitions of time. It is true of the old Saturn existence, speaking very comparatively,—our ordinary world must be non-existent for us, in the fact that thought must be absolutely still: It is the same with clairvoyance, ordinary thoughts must be left behind, they do not extend so far. By way of a comparison and expressing it in image, we must say that our brain is frozen. And when we realise this condition of rigidity, we shall have a comparative conception of the consciousness no longer enclosed in time.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"1. 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