{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 138/1912-08-29/p010","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"Let us assume that you sit down somewhere and instead of thinking laboriously of some special thing, you set yourself to think about nothing in particular. Some uncalled-for thought may then arise within you, of which, to start with, you were not thinking at all. It may occupy your soul so completely that it altogether fills it; you feel you can no longer distinguish the thought from yourself and that you are entirely one with the thought that thus suddenly arises. If you have the feeling that this is a living thought, it draws your soul with it, your soul is bound up with the thought, and it might just as well be said that the thought is in your soul as that your soul is in the thought, then you have something in sense life similar to the way in which you get to know the beings of the higher hierarchies and the way you behave toward them. The words, “I am beside them, I am outside them,” lose all meaning. You are *with* them, just as your thoughts live with you. Not that you might say, “The thoughts live in me.” You have rather to say, “A thought thinks itself in me.” The beings experience themselves, and you experience the experience of the beings. You are within them; you are one with them, so that your whole being is poured out into the sphere in which they live. You share their life, all the time knowing quite well that they, too, are experiencing themselves in this. No one must imagine that after the first steps on the path of initiation he will immediately have the feeling of experiencing all that these beings experience. Throughout he need know nothing beyond his being in their presence, as in sensory existence he might be confronted by somebody he was meeting for the first time. The expression, “The beings live and experience themselves within you,” is justified, yet you need know nothing more of them to begin with than you would know of a man on first acquaintance. In this way, therefore, it is a co-experience. This gradually grows in intensity, and you penetrate ever further into the nature of these beings.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture V","site_heading":"Experiencing the Spiritual World: Consciousness Beyond the Physical Body","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Wenn Sie das Gefühl haben, der Gedanke lebt und zieht Ihre Seele mit sich, die ist mit ihm verbunden; und man könnte ebensogut sagen, der Gedanke ist in der Seele wie die Seele im Gedanken -, so ist das etwas Ähnliches im Sinnensein, wie man sich bekannt macht und benimmt mit den Wesenheiten der höheren Hierarchien. Die Worte «man ist neben ihnen, man ist außer ihnen» verlieren allen Sinn. Man ist zit ihnen, wie die Gedanken mit einem leben, aber nicht so, daß man sagen kann: die Gedanken leben in einem -, sondern, daß man sagen muß: der Gedanke denkt sich in einem. - Sie erleben sich, und man erlebt das Erleben der Wesenheiten mit. Man ist drinnen in den Wesenheiten, man ist eins mit ihnen, so daß man sein ganzes Wesen in der Sphäre, in der die Wesenheiten leben, ausgegossen hat und man ihr Sein miterlebt, indem man ganz genau weiß, sie erleben sich darinnen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":241,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/138/1912-08-29/p008"},{"locus":"GA 138/1912-08-29/p009","passage_number":9,"text":"Es darf niemand glauben, daß er gleich nach den ersten Schritten auf dem Wege zur Initiation das Gefühl habe, er erlebe alles, was diese Wesenheiten erleben. Er braucht durchaus nicht mehr zu wissen als, er ist diesen Wesenheiten gegenüber, wie er im Sinnensein einem Menschen gegenüber ist, den er zum ersten Male sieht. Die Berechtigung des Ausdruckes «die Wesenheiten erleben sich in einem», bleibt bestehen, und doch braucht man auf die erste Bekanntschaft hin nicht mehr zu wissen, als man bei einem Menschen weiß, dem man zum ersten Male begegnet. 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