{"corpus":"steiner","locus":"GA 139/1912-09-17/p040","lang":"en","edition":"English","edition_basis":null,"is_original":false,"is_default_edition":true,"text":"And what would be the result if people of different religions were to understand each other in such a way that the Christian were to say to the Buddhist, “I believe in your Buddha just as you do,” and if the Buddhist were to say to the Christian, “I understand the Mystery of Golgotha in the same way you do?” If something like this were to become general among human beings, what would be the consequence? There would be peace, and mutual acceptance of all religions among men. And this must come. The anthroposophical movement must consist of a true mutual understanding of all religions. It would be contrary to the spirit of anthroposophy if a Christian who became an anthroposophist were to say to a Buddhist, “It is untrue that Gautama after he became a Buddha will no longer reincarnate. He must appear in the twentieth century again as a physical human being.” Whereupon the Buddhist would say, “Can your anthroposophy lead you only to deride my religion?” And as a result instead of peace discord would arise among the religions. In the same way a Christian would have to tell a Buddhist who insisted on speaking about the possible improvements in Christianity, “If you can maintain that the Mystery of Golgotha was a mistake, and that Christ could return in a physical body so that He could succeed better than before, then you are making no effort to understand my religion, you are deriding it.” It is no task of anthroposophy to deride any religion, old or new, that is worthy of respect. If this were the task of anthroposophy it would be founding a society on mutual derision, not on the understanding of the equality of all religions!","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"title":"Lecture III","site_heading":"Elijah's Spirit in John the Baptist and Christ","site_heading_note":"A heading the site wrote for this unit from a summary of it; not in the edition, and not the words of Rudolf Steiner or of the translator. 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Und gegen den Geist der Anthroposophie wäre es, wenn ein Christ, der Anthroposoph geworden wäre, zum Buddhisten sagen würde: Es ist nichts mit dem, daß der Gotama, nachdem er ein Buddha geworden ist, sich nicht wieder verkörpern sollte; er muß im zwanzigsten Jahrhundert wiedererscheinen als physischer Mensch. Da würde der Buddhist sagen: Hast du deine Anthroposophie nur dazu, um meine Religion zu verhöhnen? Und an Stelle des Friedens würde der Unfriede unter den Religionen gezüchtet. So aber müßte auch ein Christ zu einem Buddhisten, der von einem zu verbessernden Christentum sprechen wollte, sagen: Wenn du behaupten kannst, daß das Mysterium von Golgatha ein Fehler sei und daß der Christus wiederkommen sollte in einem physischen Leibe, damit es ihm jetzt besser ergehe, dann bemühst du dich nicht, meine Religion zu verstehen, dann verhöhnst du meine Religion. - Anthroposophie aber ist nicht dazu da, daß ein Religionsbekenntnis, ob altes oder neu gestiftetes, das sich Geltung verschafft, verhöhnt werde; denn sonst würde man eine Gesellschaft gründen auf gegenseitiges Verhöhnen und nicht auf gegenseitigen Ausgleich der Religionen.","text_trust":"verbatim","quote_safe":true,"word_count":266,"url":"https://anthroposophy.ai/v1/steiner/de/ga/139/1912-09-17/p039"}],"english":["GA 139/1912-09-17/p040"],"method":"length","confidence":"high","correspondence":"established","length_check":{"de_words":266,"en_words":291,"ratio":1.09,"partial":false},"pairing_state":"proposed","verified":false},"witness_completeness":{"ratio":1.07,"band":"comparable","note":null,"word_count":8799,"original_word_count":8199,"may_be_abridged":false},"witness_quality":{"translator":{"scope":"unit","status":"recorded","translator":"Conrad Mainzer","identified_edition":"AP1986","book_title":"The Gospel of St. Mark","publisher":"Anthroposophic Press","publisher_inferred":true,"match_score":1.0,"source_url":"https://www.rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA139/English/AP1986/19120917p01.html","evidence":"lecture_page_line","publisher_note":"The publisher is inferred from the edition code in this lecture's source URL, not stated by the source page. 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